Colour Clash rules - all competitions

[Clever Trevor]

I've posted this here as it applies to all competitions one would think.

SAASL - socks and shirts must be different, home team changes if a clash. Shorts should be different as per bylaws, but league is happy to ignore shorts as long as socks and shirts are dissimilar.

FFSA - what is the rule?

(FYI the Fulham v Uni Women's Premier League game last week, both teams were wearing black shorts and black socks. Furthermore, women's contact directory lists Fulham as white socks for home)

Can anyone explain?

[Bomber]

I've posted this here as it applies to all competitions one would think.

SAASL - socks and shirts must be different, home team changes if a clash. Shorts should be different as per bylaws, but league is happy to ignore shorts as long as socks and shirts are dissimilar.

FFSA - what is the rule?

(FYI the Fulham v Uni Women's Premier League game last week, both teams were wearing black shorts and black socks. Furthermore, women's contact directory lists Fulham as white socks for home)

Can anyone explain?

If you really are Clever Trevor, you'd figure it out.

[Clever Trevor]

If you really are Clever Trevor, you'd figure it out.

Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation

[Bomber]

If you really are Clever Trevor, you'd figure it out.

Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation

Anytime. Cheers

[Clever Trevor]

from ffsa rules and regs...
(5) Clubs which are not playing at home shall take their first choice uniforms and their alternative uniforms to the ground where the match will be played.
(6) If, in the opinion of the Referee of any match, the uniforms of the teams or goalkeepers taking part are not sufficiently different, the Referee shall direct the away team, or the goalkeeper of the away team as the case may be, to change to its or his alternate uniform or to make such other change as the Referee may consider appropriate for the match; no direction under this clause shall affect the right of the home team to play in its registered uniform.
(7) Any club that breaches the club colours and uniform rules shall be guilty to a level two fine.


Bomber, you seem like a being of good intelligence. Should Adelaide Uni be fined for playing with the same colour shorts and socks as Fulham? (This is premier league, so one would expect this issue to not be a problem)

[Bomber]

from ffsa rules and regs...
(5) Clubs which are not playing at home shall take their first choice uniforms and their alternative uniforms to the ground where the match will be played.
(6) If, in the opinion of the Referee of any match, the uniforms of the teams or goalkeepers taking part are not sufficiently different, the Referee shall direct the away team, or the goalkeeper of the away team as the case may be, to change to its or his alternate uniform or to make such other change as the Referee may consider appropriate for the match; no direction under this clause shall affect the right of the home team to play in its registered uniform.
(7) Any club that breaches the club colours and uniform rules shall be guilty to a level two fine.


Bomber, you seem like a being of good intelligence. Should Adelaide Uni be fined for playing with the same colour shorts and socks as Fulham? (This is premier league, so one would expect this issue to not be a problem)

If the rule says fine, then yes fine them. All teams should have alternative kits and these days there are no excuses really. As long as one team who has their home kit listed as something, and they dont change it mid-season without official notification to the relative league and all clubs within that league.

[God is an Englishman]

from ffsa rules and regs...
(5) Clubs which are not playing at home shall take their first choice uniforms and their alternative uniforms to the ground where the match will be played.
(6) If, in the opinion of the Referee of any match, the uniforms of the teams or goalkeepers taking part are not sufficiently different, the Referee shall direct the away team, or the goalkeeper of the away team as the case may be, to change to its or his alternate uniform or to make such other change as the Referee may consider appropriate for the match; no direction under this clause shall affect the right of the home team to play in its registered uniform.
(7) Any club that breaches the club colours and uniform rules shall be guilty to a level two fine.


Bomber, you seem like a being of good intelligence. Should Adelaide Uni be fined for playing with the same colour shorts and socks as Fulham? (This is premier league, so one would expect this issue to not be a problem)

Surely this comes down to whether the referee advised them to change and it wasn't possible. Rule 6 states "in the opinion of the referee". SO it's up to the ref to tell the team to change.

[Spätlese]

If you really are Clever Trevor, you'd figure it out.

Thanks for adding nothing to this conversation

The pleasure was all yours.

[SILENT P]

This happens every year when Adelaide City play Birks at Oakden. Birks wear the black shorts when we do and i have questioned the refferee over it and his response is as along as the socks and shirts are different.

[themagnet]

I've posted this here as it applies to all competitions one would think.

SAASL - socks and shirts must be different, home team changes if a clash. Shorts should be different as per bylaws, but league is happy to ignore shorts as long as socks and shirts are dissimilar.

FFSA - what is the rule?

(FYI the Fulham v Uni Women's Premier League game last week, both teams were wearing black shorts and black socks. Furthermore, women's contact directory lists Fulham as white socks for home)

Can anyone explain?

from ffsa rules and regs...
(5) Clubs which are not playing at home shall take their first choice uniforms and their alternative uniforms to the ground where the match will be played.
(6) If, in the opinion of the Referee of any match, the uniforms of the teams or goalkeepers taking part are not sufficiently different, the Referee shall direct the away team, or the goalkeeper of the away team as the case may be, to change to its or his alternate uniform or to make such other change as the Referee may consider appropriate for the match; no direction under this clause shall affect the right of the home team to play in its registered uniform.
(7) Any club that breaches the club colours and uniform rules shall be guilty to a level two fine.

Bomber, you seem like a being of good intelligence. Should Adelaide Uni be fined for playing with the same colour shorts and socks as Fulham? (This is premier league, so one would expect this issue to not be a problem)

It's hardly ever enforced in the Women's comps, although I would've thought there'd be a higher standard at Prems level. In the lower div's teams have turned up without away uniforms and the ref hasn't cared. A couple of times we actually had to ask teams to either turn their shirts inside out or wear bibs because we didn't have our away kit available, other times, we as the home team have worn our away shirts. Sock clashes definently isn't enforced

[pernunz]

Edit: Amatuer League.

This occured on the weekend, OISC vs MA Hawks.

MA Hawks were in their black kit, and OISC had originally worn yellow. The two linesmen were wearing black, but the central official changed to a yellow top, and as such requested OISC as the home team to change strip, which occurred without a fuss (aside from a bit of running around)

Would not have been a problem if the referee had a third coloured top.

[God is an Englishman]

Edit: Amatuer League.

This occured on the weekend, OISC vs MA Hawks.

MA Hawks were in their black kit, and OISC had originally worn yellow. The two linesmen were wearing black, but the central official changed to a yellow top, and as such requested OISC as the home team to change strip, which occurred without a fuss (aside from a bit of running around)

Would not have been a problem if the referee had a third coloured top.

or as a club MA Hawkes could just not wear black, or oisc could have realised the obvious and not worn yellow to start with.

[bapa]

Luckily, 2013 will see referees wearing all black, and so, teams must not!

[90mins]

I've posted this here as it applies to all competitions one would think.

SAASL - socks and shirts must be different, home team changes if a clash. Shorts should be different as per bylaws, but league is happy to ignore shorts as long as socks and shirts are dissimilar.

FFSA - what is the rule?

(FYI the Fulham v Uni Women's Premier League game last week, both teams were wearing black shorts and black socks. Furthermore, women's contact directory lists Fulham as white socks for home)

Can anyone explain?

The FFSA junior rule is simple

They don't send a ref so there is no issue

[God is an Englishman]

Luckily, 2013 will see referees wearing all black, and so, teams must not!

I'll put money that in april we'll still see uni claiming they've always worn black (even though they haven't) and still claiming they know nothing about the refs wearing black.

[penalty]

SAASRA referees vote to have alternative colour shirts for 2013

[God is an Englishman]

SAASRA referees vote to have alternative colour shirts for 2013

that would make them look very silly if they did, years of saying it's going to happen only to have a couple of clubs rule the roost over them.

Would be a huge climb down by them if they did!

[Red-4-Life]

refs are less pedantic about it in amateur and lower division games

[Clever Trevor]

I'll put money that in april we'll still see uni claiming they've always worn black (even though they haven't) and still claiming they know nothing about the refs wearing black.

Considering Uni have reps on the Amatuer League committee they should know...

[Brian the Postman]

Luckily, 2013 will see referees wearing all black, and so, teams must not!

How did that go for you bub?

You are looking as creditable as Hawkesy.

[God is an Englishman]

You were provided with all documentation from Saasra, they just voted again and decisions were changed.

Everything I said was spot on at the time.

[Brian the Postman]

You were provided with all documentation from Saasra, they just voted again and decisions were changed.

Everything I said was spot on at the time.

You were fairly adamant that Adelaide Uni wouldn't be able to wear black strips in 2012.

[God is an Englishman]

You were provided with all documentation from Saasra, they just voted again and decisions were changed.

Everything I said was spot on at the time.

You were fairly adamant that Adelaide Uni wouldn't be able to wear black strips in 2012.

And they voted to give you another year, now they've voted for an alternate strip. They revoted, you know this.

[Brian the Postman]

You were provided with all documentation from Saasra, they just voted again and decisions were changed.

Everything I said was spot on at the time.

You were fairly adamant that Adelaide Uni wouldn't be able to wear black strips in 2012.

And they voted to give you another year, now they've voted for an alternate strip. They revoted, you know this.

Irregardless, my recollection is that you were very certain that Uni wouldn't be allowed to wear black anymore and that the refs had the power to stop a club wearing a certain coloured strip.

Make of it what you will.

[God is an Englishman]

Irregardless, my recollection is that you were very certain that Uni wouldn't be allowed to wear black anymore and that the refs had the power to stop a club wearing a certain coloured strip.

Make of it what you will.

and they do have that power, they just voted again and changed their mind. Had that vote not reversed that decision then you would not have been wearing black this season.

Pretty simple really!

[Brian the Postman]

Irregardless, my recollection is that you were very certain that Uni wouldn't be allowed to wear black anymore and that the refs had the power to stop a club wearing a certain coloured strip.

Make of it what you will.

and they do have that power, they just voted again and changed their mind. Had that vote not reversed that decision then you would not have been wearing black this season.

Pretty simple really!

Hawkesy they don't have the power, they are held as responsible to the administrators of the competitions as the rest of us - who ultimately decide these issues.

[God is an Englishman]

Irregardless, my recollection is that you were very certain that Uni wouldn't be allowed to wear black anymore and that the refs had the power to stop a club wearing a certain coloured strip.

Make of it what you will.

and they do have that power, they just voted again and changed their mind. Had that vote not reversed that decision then you would not have been wearing black this season.

Pretty simple really!

Hawkesy they don't have the power, they are held as responsible to the administrators of the competitions as the rest of us - who ultimately decide these issues.

I worry about you sometimes.

So, the ref turns up and says he's only wearing black, you refuse to change. Who's going to win that argument?

The ref walks away, backed by SAASRA and the game isn't played. Who has the power? They have the power to ensure you don't get a game played all season. Who has the power again?

[Brian the Postman]

and they do have that power, they just voted again and changed their mind. Had that vote not reversed that decision then you would not have been wearing black this season.

Pretty simple really!

Hawkesy they don't have the power, they are held as responsible to the administrators of the competitions as the rest of us - who ultimately decide these issues.

I worry about you sometimes.

So, the ref turns up and says he's only wearing black, you refuse to change. Who's going to win that argument?

The ref walks away, backed by SAASRA and the game isn't played. Who has the power? They have the power to ensure you don't get a game played all season. Who has the power again?

I dare say the league will decide on the outcome, if Uni haven't broken a league rule with regards to the use of an approved strip then the SAASRA and the ref in particular will be held accountable.

If the league year book says that Uni wear a black home strip and the team that they are playing doesnt wear black, then Uni are fully entitled as per the league protocols to wear the black strip. Sure the game may not go ahead if the ref chooses to ignore the competition rules but then I would expect that they receive a suitable sanction for their actions.

[God is an Englishman]

I dare say the league will decide on the outcome, if Uni haven't broken a league rule with regards to the use of an approved strip then the SAASRA and the ref in particular will be held accountable.

If the league year book says that Uni wear a black home strip and the team that they are playing doesnt wear black, then Uni are fully entitled as per the league protocols to wear the black strip. Sure the game may not go ahead if the ref chooses to ignore the competition rules but then I would expect that they receive a suitable sanction for their actions.

and in the rearranged game, the ref says I only have a black top etc..

So SAASL try to sanction the ref (of which they have no power to do so) and the SAASRA and SAASRA respond by saying "we told you about this, we only have black. Any sanctions our way and we will not appoint any refs to any games this weekend".

The league is now in chaos as no games go ahead.

So, what has the power.

I think you forget one vitally important fact. The referees (and SAASRA) control the game on the day, not SAASL.

[Brian the Postman]

I dare say the league will decide on the outcome, if Uni haven't broken a league rule with regards to the use of an approved strip then the SAASRA and the ref in particular will be held accountable.

If the league year book says that Uni wear a black home strip and the team that they are playing doesnt wear black, then Uni are fully entitled as per the league protocols to wear the black strip. Sure the game may not go ahead if the ref chooses to ignore the competition rules but then I would expect that they receive a suitable sanction for their actions.

and in the rearranged game, the ref says I only have a black top etc..

So SAASL try to sanction the ref (of which they have no power to do so) and the SAASRA and SAASRA respond by saying "we told you about this, we only have black. Any sanctions our way and we will not appoint any refs to any games this weekend".

The league is now in chaos as no games go ahead.

So, what has the power.

I think you forget one vitally important fact. The referees (and SAASRA) control the game on the day, not SAASL.

Alright question for you then, given the amateur league refs are reffing amateurs because they are not up to standard for FFSA, who do they ref for then when the governing body holds them to account for unconscionable behaviour?

They would be refs with no games to ref wouldn't they?