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I'm wanting to clarify- double footed challenges where the studs are showing should automatically attract a red card shouldn't they? Our first team has had the same referee twice in the saasl where In both games he's acknowledged the studs were showing and the two feet, however he has only given a yellow card. His initial reaction to the challenge was strong - he was quick and loud on the whistle and drew the card straight away. I was surprised he went for the yellow though, I thought fifa were pretty clear on that stuff and tackles from behind over 10 years ago or is it still in the eyes of the beholder so to speak?
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There is no definite rule about "Studs up" (incidentally, http://www.studs-up.com/ is a decent webcomic"
The issue is if a player goes into a tackle with both feet off the ground, or "jumping in" to a tackle, they are not in control their movements. This is the key part.
A sending off can be for:
I personally would view a two studs up challenge as Serious Foul Play, and Violent Conduct, simply because it has the potential to cause injury on another player, even if there is not contact. If I recall correctly, the same weekend Vincent Kompany got sent off in the FA Cup against Manchester United, there was (imo) a worse tackle by Glen Johnson which involved both feet, studs up, touching the ball as an opposing player was going for the ball. If a player recklessly risks the safety of another player, I view it as a red card offence.
The issue is if a player goes into a tackle with both feet off the ground, or "jumping in" to a tackle, they are not in control their movements. This is the key part.
A sending off can be for:
There are additional interpretations that commentators use such as intent and whatnot, but it all comes down to the referee.• serious foul play
• violent conduct
I personally would view a two studs up challenge as Serious Foul Play, and Violent Conduct, simply because it has the potential to cause injury on another player, even if there is not contact. If I recall correctly, the same weekend Vincent Kompany got sent off in the FA Cup against Manchester United, there was (imo) a worse tackle by Glen Johnson which involved both feet, studs up, touching the ball as an opposing player was going for the ball. If a player recklessly risks the safety of another player, I view it as a red card offence.
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How can you send someone off for a challenge without any malice and that makes no coact.
To say it's automatic is ludicrous. What if the player is 5m away and never in danger?
I was taught that studs up near a player is a caution. If it makes contact with the player then it's red.
If you are to give a red card then it's for serious foul play and not for violent conduct.
To say it's automatic is ludicrous. What if the player is 5m away and never in danger?
I was taught that studs up near a player is a caution. If it makes contact with the player then it's red.
If you are to give a red card then it's for serious foul play and not for violent conduct.
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It depends on whether the referee judges the tackle to be violent conduct.
The same way that throwing a punch at someone and not connecting is a red-card offence, a tackle, if deemed to be violent conduct, even if it doesn't contact the player, is still punishable by a red card.
The same way that throwing a punch at someone and not connecting is a red-card offence, a tackle, if deemed to be violent conduct, even if it doesn't contact the player, is still punishable by a red card.
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how can a "tackle" be violent conduct?pernunz wrote:It depends on whether the referee judges the tackle to be violent conduct.
The same way that throwing a punch at someone and not connecting is a red-card offence, a tackle, if deemed to be violent conduct, even if it doesn't contact the player, is still punishable by a red card.
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2 players are running directly at each other. One player is on his feet, controlling the ball, the other player jumps in with both feet off the ground. One foot is aimed at the ball, the other foot is studs-up into the other players knee-cap. If the player on his feet does his best to get out of the way, to avoid a potentially shattered kneecap, just because there is no contact, it does not mean there was not a violent intention.God is an Englishman wrote:how can a "tackle" be violent conduct?pernunz wrote:It depends on whether the referee judges the tackle to be violent conduct.
The same way that throwing a punch at someone and not connecting is a red-card offence, a tackle, if deemed to be violent conduct, even if it doesn't contact the player, is still punishable by a red card.
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here is the difference between violent conduct and serious foul play.
Serious foul play is when a sreoius foul occurs, ie studs up connecting, two footed tackle in the air
Violent conduct is classified for off the ball behaviour as in punches thrown or kicking/stomping the player while on the ground.
Serious foul play is when a sreoius foul occurs, ie studs up connecting, two footed tackle in the air
Violent conduct is classified for off the ball behaviour as in punches thrown or kicking/stomping the player while on the ground.
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+1God is an Englishman wrote:how can a "tackle" be violent conduct?pernunz wrote:It depends on whether the referee judges the tackle to be violent conduct.
The same way that throwing a punch at someone and not connecting is a red-card offence, a tackle, if deemed to be violent conduct, even if it doesn't contact the player, is still punishable by a red card.
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+1Pommy09 wrote:here is the difference between violent conduct and serious foul play.
Serious foul play is when a sreoius foul occurs, ie studs up connecting, two footed tackle in the air
Violent conduct is classified for off the ball behaviour as in punches thrown or kicking/stomping the player while on the ground.
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if it is that dangerous that if it connected and could have broken the players leg, then yes it should be a red cardwhateva wrote:Does the tackle In danger the safety of the opponent if so red
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