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More changes within refereeing ranks

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After my post from yesterday was removed (must have hit a little too close to home), I will reiterate the information a little clearer.

So the Referee Committee Chairman and one of his committeemen have decided to leave, less than 12 months into their jaunt. Call it choice or call it pushed. Its is the same thing because they are gone!

Once again, the refereeing structure within FSA is changing. Another year, another change.

Why is it that every year, there are changes within the refereeing structure (be it the Referee TC or management inside the referee department). Why cant the Referee Technical Committee remain in place for more than 12 months without the need for changes? Perhaps it is time for certain people within the FSA to start to have a look in the mirror.

We went from an experienced structure 12 months ago to the need for a "restructure". FSA used their discretion to get rid of capable people within refereeing to appoint their own group of people under the guise of a "restructure", including some people who the refereeing group have never even heard of and we still don't even see them make an appearance at training. Lets face it, I never saw the chairman at training nor half of the committee this year. The FSA refereeing department and its senior reporting line clearly didn't like the fact that the previous referee TC and coaches used to make choices and decisions that were in the best interests of referees, but not the FSA. After all though, who were they there to work for, the best interests of referees or the FSA?

Lo and behold, not even 12 moths later the person who was appointed amidst much fanfare as the new beginning came in with all the big ideas is gone along with one of his fellow committeemen.. And now another new chairperson. The FSA must be running out of people to lead the referees. Pretty soon there will be no one left as they will have alienated all of them.

So why the instability, why the inability to maintain a structure for a period longer than 12 months. Perhaps it is time for the FSA to start to have a look at itself and its own behavior here.

Perhaps it is time for them to stop interfering in areas of refereeing that they should stay out of....like referee appointments. Perhaps they stop knifing people who are not prepared to tow the line and who actually step in and support referees instead of allowing them to be walked over. Two years ago I recall the time when the FSA approved two teams to wear the same colors in a match and sent the referee out like a lamb to the slaughter. It was mentioned within this forum and then a strong directive was provided to us at the next coaching session by the coach Paul Cetrangolo to insist that teams change colors and not allow a ridiculous kit allocation to be permitted (after all it is clear in the laws of the game that there shouldn't be a clash of strips) Spectators judged the referee that day and questioned him, not the ignoramus at headquarters that approved the clash of colors to save embarrassment that they didn't do their job appropriately in the first place by insisting that the way team have a kit that didn't clash with all teams!

Time and time again, they are caught holding the ball and rather than admit defeat and that they don't run things right, they simply come in, get rid of the people who hold them to account and start again. Anything to avoid embarrassment. Well the available pool of talent is almost empty. They have drained the pool and are now clutching at straws.

Then we come to the FSA Board. Surely it is time that they start to have a look at this and take ownership of the constant changes and start to ask some serious questions. A Board doesn't sit back and simply accept everything that is done within an organisation. Where they see a trend, they need to question it independently and check for themselves. Perhaps they should start to ask some questions of the departed people over the past ten years and seek feedback as to why they are no longer involved. Who knows, they may learn something

Lets see how long it takes for this post to be removed.....

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If fixtures are released months in advance, and clubs are having their home & away strips audited by FSA as early as two months ago, why doesn't the refs group predetermine the strip allocation at the start of the season instead of clubs receiving it from the FSA two days before the game and refs complaining about it on the day?

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Lucas Leiva wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:58 pm
If fixtures are released months in advance, and clubs are having their home & away strips audited by FSA as early as two months ago, why doesn't the refs group predetermine the strip allocation at the start of the season instead of clubs receiving it from the FSA two days before the game and refs complaining about it on the day?
that would involve work for the paid employees, leave it to the club volunteers

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Lucas Leiva wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:58 pm
If fixtures are released months in advance, and clubs are having their home & away strips audited by FSA as early as two months ago, why doesn't the refs group predetermine the strip allocation at the start of the season instead of clubs receiving it from the FSA two days before the game and refs complaining about it on the day?

Because this is based on the assumption that FSA HQ actually audit the strips properly in the first place. The process of kit allocations works fine as long as the initial process is completed in a diligent and accurate manner. However at the time referred to above, I think you will find that this was clearly not done and chaos ensured with the poor referee copping grief from the crowd.

The Laws of the Game are what the sport is built on. If the powers that be cannot follow the most basic of laws (Law 4), what hope do the rest of us have?

Realistically, its not a difficult process to get right. Primary school kids could do it and therefore adults should also be able to do it properly!

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malouf wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:09 pm
After my post from yesterday was removed (must have hit a little too close to home), I will reiterate the information a little clearer.

So the Referee Committee Chairman and one of his committeemen have decided to leave, less than 12 months into their jaunt. Call it choice or call it pushed. Its is the same thing because they are gone!

Once again, the refereeing structure within FSA is changing. Another year, another change.

Why is it that every year, there are changes within the refereeing structure (be it the Referee TC or management inside the referee department). Why cant the Referee Technical Committee remain in place for more than 12 months without the need for changes? Perhaps it is time for certain people within the FSA to start to have a look in the mirror.

We went from an experienced structure 12 months ago to the need for a "restructure". FSA used their discretion to get rid of capable people within refereeing to appoint their own group of people under the guise of a "restructure", including some people who the refereeing group have never even heard of and we still don't even see them make an appearance at training. Lets face it, I never saw the chairman at training nor half of the committee this year. The FSA refereeing department and its senior reporting line clearly didn't like the fact that the previous referee TC and coaches used to make choices and decisions that were in the best interests of referees, but not the FSA. After all though, who were they there to work for, the best interests of referees or the FSA?

Lo and behold, not even 12 moths later the person who was appointed amidst much fanfare as the new beginning came in with all the big ideas is gone along with one of his fellow committeemen.. And now another new chairperson. The FSA must be running out of people to lead the referees. Pretty soon there will be no one left as they will have alienated all of them.

So why the instability, why the inability to maintain a structure for a period longer than 12 months. Perhaps it is time for the FSA to start to have a look at itself and its own behavior here.

Perhaps it is time for them to stop interfering in areas of refereeing that they should stay out of....like referee appointments. Perhaps they stop knifing people who are not prepared to tow the line and who actually step in and support referees instead of allowing them to be walked over. Two years ago I recall the time when the FSA approved two teams to wear the same colors in a match and sent the referee out like a lamb to the slaughter. It was mentioned within this forum and then a strong directive was provided to us at the next coaching session by the coach Paul Cetrangolo to insist that teams change colors and not allow a ridiculous kit allocation to be permitted (after all it is clear in the laws of the game that there shouldn't be a clash of strips) Spectators judged the referee that day and questioned him, not the ignoramus at headquarters that approved the clash of colors to save embarrassment that they didn't do their job appropriately in the first place by insisting that the way team have a kit that didn't clash with all teams!

Time and time again, they are caught holding the ball and rather than admit defeat and that they don't run things right, they simply come in, get rid of the people who hold them to account and start again. Anything to avoid embarrassment. Well the available pool of talent is almost empty. They have drained the pool and are now clutching at straws.

Then we come to the FSA Board. Surely it is time that they start to have a look at this and take ownership of the constant changes and start to ask some serious questions. A Board doesn't sit back and simply accept everything that is done within an organisation. Where they see a trend, they need to question it independently and check for themselves. Perhaps they should start to ask some questions of the departed people over the past ten years and seek feedback as to why they are no longer involved. Who knows, they may learn something

Lets see how long it takes for this post to be removed.....

You make some very interesting points Malouf. Definitely food for thought.

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nagatomo wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:09 pm
malouf wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:09 pm
After my post from yesterday was removed (must have hit a little too close to home), I will reiterate the information a little clearer.

So the Referee Committee Chairman and one of his committeemen have decided to leave, less than 12 months into their jaunt. Call it choice or call it pushed. Its is the same thing because they are gone!

Once again, the refereeing structure within FSA is changing. Another year, another change.

Why is it that every year, there are changes within the refereeing structure (be it the Referee TC or management inside the referee department). Why cant the Referee Technical Committee remain in place for more than 12 months without the need for changes? Perhaps it is time for certain people within the FSA to start to have a look in the mirror.

We went from an experienced structure 12 months ago to the need for a "restructure". FSA used their discretion to get rid of capable people within refereeing to appoint their own group of people under the guise of a "restructure", including some people who the refereeing group have never even heard of and we still don't even see them make an appearance at training. Lets face it, I never saw the chairman at training nor half of the committee this year. The FSA refereeing department and its senior reporting line clearly didn't like the fact that the previous referee TC and coaches used to make choices and decisions that were in the best interests of referees, but not the FSA. After all though, who were they there to work for, the best interests of referees or the FSA?

Lo and behold, not even 12 moths later the person who was appointed amidst much fanfare as the new beginning came in with all the big ideas is gone along with one of his fellow committeemen.. And now another new chairperson. The FSA must be running out of people to lead the referees. Pretty soon there will be no one left as they will have alienated all of them.

So why the instability, why the inability to maintain a structure for a period longer than 12 months. Perhaps it is time for the FSA to start to have a look at itself and its own behavior here.

Perhaps it is time for them to stop interfering in areas of refereeing that they should stay out of....like referee appointments. Perhaps they stop knifing people who are not prepared to tow the line and who actually step in and support referees instead of allowing them to be walked over. Two years ago I recall the time when the FSA approved two teams to wear the same colors in a match and sent the referee out like a lamb to the slaughter. It was mentioned within this forum and then a strong directive was provided to us at the next coaching session by the coach Paul Cetrangolo to insist that teams change colors and not allow a ridiculous kit allocation to be permitted (after all it is clear in the laws of the game that there shouldn't be a clash of strips) Spectators judged the referee that day and questioned him, not the ignoramus at headquarters that approved the clash of colors to save embarrassment that they didn't do their job appropriately in the first place by insisting that the way team have a kit that didn't clash with all teams!

Time and time again, they are caught holding the ball and rather than admit defeat and that they don't run things right, they simply come in, get rid of the people who hold them to account and start again. Anything to avoid embarrassment. Well the available pool of talent is almost empty. They have drained the pool and are now clutching at straws.

Then we come to the FSA Board. Surely it is time that they start to have a look at this and take ownership of the constant changes and start to ask some serious questions. A Board doesn't sit back and simply accept everything that is done within an organisation. Where they see a trend, they need to question it independently and check for themselves. Perhaps they should start to ask some questions of the departed people over the past ten years and seek feedback as to why they are no longer involved. Who knows, they may learn something

Lets see how long it takes for this post to be removed.....

You make some very interesting points Malouf. Definitely food for thought.
Thanks Nagatomo

The time came for some honesty and straight talk. I have seen and heard enough in my short time to know that the management of refereeing and the constant chopping and changing is getting beyond a joke.

There is no stability with annual changes and restructures. The refereeing fraternity deserves better. We deserve to have an independent technical committee that is free from interference from the FSA. Unfortunately it is abundantly clear that whenever the FSA are held to account, the simply organize a restructure so that they can maintain their control. Its a bit like china really....

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Why not just leave the decision to the referees on the day. Away team is required to have a kit that doesn't clash.

No discussion needed.
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