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Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:03 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:hole nation
I like that new nickname for them, well played.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:07 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:hole nation
I like that new nickname for them, well played.
Well it has been referred to as such since your arrival. :wink:

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:20 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:hole nation
I like that new nickname for them, well played.
Well it has been referred to as such since your arrival. :wink:
I raised the average IQ of both countries when I emigrated.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:07 am
by The Kop
God is an Englishman wrote:
The Kop wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote: It was played by an australian defender.
:? :?
That's not a correct interpretation of the rule.
Did attacker gain advantage from being in offside position when ball was played? Yes, then it's offside irrelevant of who "plays the ball".


I thought that as well but was set straight on the interpretation by one of Old Master's best mates when he informed me the interpretation has changed.
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent
oh right didn't know it had changed, I stand corrected.

So then.....theoretically you could be miles offside, you're teammate cannons ball into a defender, deflects in your path, go on and score - no offside?

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:43 am
by God is an Englishman
The Kop wrote:oh right didn't know it had changed, I stand corrected.

So then.....theoretically you could be miles offside, you're teammate cannons ball into a defender, deflects in your path, go on and score - no offside?
Neither did I. Neither did Foster, neither did most people. Seems stupid to me because the only reason the defender plays the ball is because the defender is offside.

I'd say the "cannons ball into defender" would mean that he hasn't played the ball, so NO but I see your point.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:41 am
by Clem Fandango
zzz wrote:You were very lucky to be there in the first place. Syria hit the upright in dying minutes of qualifier. A few inches to the left and you're not even in Russia.
Never took you for an AFL fan :P

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:59 pm
by zzz
Clem Fandango wrote:
zzz wrote:You were very lucky to be there in the first place. Syria hit the upright in dying minutes of qualifier. A few inches to the left and you're not even in Russia.
Never took you for an AFL fan :P
Didn't realise ALF had crossbars. Learn something new every day.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:49 pm
by Ofor Fuxake
zzz wrote:
Clem Fandango wrote:
zzz wrote:You were very lucky to be there in the first place. Syria hit the upright in dying minutes of qualifier. A few inches to the left and you're not even in Russia.
Never took you for an AFL fan :P
Didn't realise ALF had crossbars. Learn something new every day.
Did you mention a crossbar?

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:23 pm
by zzz
Ofor Fuxake wrote:
zzz wrote:
Clem Fandango wrote: Never took you for an AFL fan :P
Didn't realise ALF had crossbars. Learn something new every day.
Did you mention a crossbar?
Do you require further education of this sport?
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In games of association football teams compete to score the most goals during the match. A goal is scored when the ball passes completely over a goal line at each end of the field of play between two centrally positioned upright goal posts 24 feet (7.32 m) apart and underneath a horizontal crossbar at a height of 8 feet (2.44 m).

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:34 pm
by Ofor Fuxake
Avoiding the question I see.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:36 pm
by zzz
Ofor Fuxake wrote:Avoiding the question I see.
You're a waste of time keyboard warrior.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:26 am
by Con M
Bit of perspective here wouldn’t go astray for the naysayers.

Australia 24 million people, the talent spread among FOUR football codes.

Peru 32 million population, ONE football code.

And I bet the Peruvians’ ball skills are honed by more street football and pickup games on village waste grounds. In Australia many youngsters are pampered and driven to training twice per week. IMO they need more time playing. They should also train and play for their school on Saturdays as well as playing expensive club football on Sundays, so in total they spend more time on the ball.

ps, as an aside though, Australia lost to ONE fortuitous goal 1 centimetre over the line by France.
Argentina with an immensely greater football pedigree also lost by ONE goal to France.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:19 pm
by predrag
Looking at how France/Denmark played in the round of 16 i think we have nothing to be ashamed of our green & gold boys.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:09 pm
by zzz
Con M wrote:Bit of perspective here wouldn’t go astray for the naysayers.

Australia 24 million people, the talent spread among FOUR football codes.

Peru 32 million population, ONE football code.

And I bet the Peruvians’ ball skills are honed by more street football and pickup games on village waste grounds. In Australia many youngsters are pampered and driven to training twice per week. IMO they need more time playing. They should also train and play for their school on Saturdays as well as playing expensive club football on Sundays, so in total they spend more time on the ball.

ps, as an aside though, Australia lost to ONE fortuitous goal 1 centimetre over the line by France.
Argentina with an immensely greater football pedigree also lost by ONE goal to France.
Your argument is destroyed by Uruguay who are also pretty good at rugby. Then you have nations like Croatia who excel in sports like handball, basketball and tennis. Then you have Iceland.

You struggled to defeat Syria and lost to Iraq numerous times. These nations players can't even play home matches and spend much of their lives dodging bombs.

Lets not forget the youth team losing to El Salvador. Australia has more registered players than the entire populations of some of these countries.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:26 pm
by Bomber
zzz wrote:
Con M wrote:Bit of perspective here wouldn’t go astray for the naysayers.

Australia 24 million people, the talent spread among FOUR football codes.

Peru 32 million population, ONE football code.

And I bet the Peruvians’ ball skills are honed by more street football and pickup games on village waste grounds. In Australia many youngsters are pampered and driven to training twice per week. IMO they need more time playing. They should also train and play for their school on Saturdays as well as playing expensive club football on Sundays, so in total they spend more time on the ball.

ps, as an aside though, Australia lost to ONE fortuitous goal 1 centimetre over the line by France.
Argentina with an immensely greater football pedigree also lost by ONE goal to France.
Your argument is destroyed by Uruguay who are also pretty good at rugby. Then you have nations like Croatia who excel in sports like handball, basketball and tennis. Then you have Iceland.

You struggled to defeat Syria and lost to Iraq numerous times. These nations players can't even play home matches and spend much of their lives dodging bombs.

Lets not forget the youth team losing to El Salvador. Australia has more registered players than the entire populations of some of these countries.
Not disputing all of this post BUT Uruguay good at Rugby? :shock: :lol:

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:37 pm
by zzz
Bomber wrote:
zzz wrote:
Con M wrote:Bit of perspective here wouldn’t go astray for the naysayers.

Australia 24 million people, the talent spread among FOUR football codes.

Peru 32 million population, ONE football code.

And I bet the Peruvians’ ball skills are honed by more street football and pickup games on village waste grounds. In Australia many youngsters are pampered and driven to training twice per week. IMO they need more time playing. They should also train and play for their school on Saturdays as well as playing expensive club football on Sundays, so in total they spend more time on the ball.

ps, as an aside though, Australia lost to ONE fortuitous goal 1 centimetre over the line by France.
Argentina with an immensely greater football pedigree also lost by ONE goal to France.
Your argument is destroyed by Uruguay who are also pretty good at rugby. Then you have nations like Croatia who excel in sports like handball, basketball and tennis. Then you have Iceland.

You struggled to defeat Syria and lost to Iraq numerous times. These nations players can't even play home matches and spend much of their lives dodging bombs.

Lets not forget the youth team losing to El Salvador. Australia has more registered players than the entire populations of some of these countries.
Not disputing all of this post BUT Uruguay good at Rugby? :shock: :lol:
ranked 18

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:53 pm
by Delete Your Account
zzz wrote:
Bomber wrote:
zzz wrote:
Your argument is destroyed by Uruguay who are also pretty good at rugby. Then you have nations like Croatia who excel in sports like handball, basketball and tennis. Then you have Iceland.

You struggled to defeat Syria and lost to Iraq numerous times. These nations players can't even play home matches and spend much of their lives dodging bombs.

Lets not forget the youth team losing to El Salvador. Australia has more registered players than the entire populations of some of these countries.
Not disputing all of this post BUT Uruguay good at Rugby? :shock: :lol:
ranked 18
So ranked 18/105 is good but ranked 36/211 is a terrible side.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:57 pm
by zzz
Slinky_Pete wrote:
zzz wrote:
Bomber wrote: Not disputing all of this post BUT Uruguay good at Rugby? :shock: :lol:
ranked 18
So ranked 18/105 is good but ranked 36/211 is a terrible side.
If you think Australia is the 36th best national football team on the planet this discussion will fly way over your head.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:15 pm
by OldGold
zzz wrote:
Con M wrote:Bit of perspective here wouldn’t go astray for the naysayers.

Australia 24 million people, the talent spread among FOUR football codes.

Peru 32 million population, ONE football code.

And I bet the Peruvians’ ball skills are honed by more street football and pickup games on village waste grounds. In Australia many youngsters are pampered and driven to training twice per week. IMO they need more time playing. They should also train and play for their school on Saturdays as well as playing expensive club football on Sundays, so in total they spend more time on the ball.

ps, as an aside though, Australia lost to ONE fortuitous goal 1 centimetre over the line by France.
Argentina with an immensely greater football pedigree also lost by ONE goal to France.
Your argument is destroyed by Uruguay who are also pretty good at rugby. Then you have nations like Croatia who excel in sports like handball, basketball and tennis. Then you have Iceland.

You struggled to defeat Syria and lost to Iraq numerous times. These nations players can't even play home matches and spend much of their lives dodging bombs.

Lets not forget the youth team losing to El Salvador. Australia has more registered players than the entire populations of some of these countries.
Well said!

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:21 am
by Delete Your Account
zzz wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
zzz wrote:
ranked 18
So ranked 18/105 is good but ranked 36/211 is a terrible side.
If you think Australia is the 36th best national football team on the planet this discussion will fly way over your head.
Give reasons why rankings are accurate in Rugby but not Football.

I haven't claimed Australia to be "very good" either.

Given the sole metric youve used to back your claim, its tough to now claim world rankings are flawed.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:03 am
by God is an Englishman
36 in world football is reasonable, 18th in rugby and you're pretty cabernet.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:33 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:36 in world football is reasonable, 18th in rugby and you're pretty cabernet.
Exactly. Eg a team ranked say 9th or 10th (like a Scotland or Tonga) would wipe the floor with Uruguay in Rugby - 50 plus points would be a predictable margin.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:39 am
by Delete Your Account
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:36 in world football is reasonable, 18th in rugby and you're pretty cabernet.
Exactly. Eg a team ranked say 9th or 10th (like a Scotland or Tonga) would wipe the floor with Uruguay in Rugby - 50 plus points would be a predictable margin.
The USA beat Uruguay 61-19 in their last match.

USA are ranked 15th

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:42 am
by God is an Englishman
Slinky_Pete wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:36 in world football is reasonable, 18th in rugby and you're pretty cabernet.
Exactly. Eg a team ranked say 9th or 10th (like a Scotland or Tonga) would wipe the floor with Uruguay in Rugby - 50 plus points would be a predictable margin.
The USA beat Uruguay 61-19 in their last match.

USA are ranked 15th
USA also beat scotland recently

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:43 am
by God is an Englishman
I think SA put over 100 points on Uruguay a few years back and England put 60 past them in the last world cup.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:13 pm
by zzz
Slinky_Pete wrote:
zzz wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
So ranked 18/105 is good but ranked 36/211 is a terrible side.
If you think Australia is the 36th best national football team on the planet this discussion will fly way over your head.
Give reasons why rankings are accurate in Rugby but not Football.

I haven't claimed Australia to be "very good" either.

Given the sole metric youve used to back your claim, its tough to now claim world rankings are flawed.
Rugby is a major sport in Uruguay is the point here but you've become fixated on rankings.
Australia isn't the only country in the world that plays multiple team ball sports.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:30 pm
by Bomber
Multiple team ball sports and major team ball sports make a difference though.

Eg, USA good at Gridiron, Basketball and Baseball (main sports), not as good with football.
Eg, Australia good at AFL, Rugby League, Rugby Union (albeit arguable these days :wink: ), not as good with football.
Eg, Uruguay good at football, not nearly as good in Rugby.

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:42 pm
by Delete Your Account
zzz wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
zzz wrote:
If you think Australia is the 36th best national football team on the planet this discussion will fly way over your head.
Give reasons why rankings are accurate in Rugby but not Football.

I haven't claimed Australia to be "very good" either.

Given the sole metric you've used to back your claim, its tough to now claim world rankings are flawed.
Rugby is a major sport in Uruguay is the point here but you've become fixated on rankings.
Australia isn't the only country in the world that plays multiple team ball sports.
Your point was that Uruguay are "pretty good" at rugby.

Your only retort to prove as such is their ranking.

What else do you have that proves that Uruguay are "pretty good" at rugby?

Is it their recent 61-19 loss to the USA?

Could it be how they qualified for the last World Cup via the repechage, beating Hong Kong, & Russia (going 1-1 over the 2 leg final)?
Or their 30-226 points record in said WC?

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:52 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Eg, Australia good at AFL, Rugby League, Rugby Union (albeit arguable these days :wink: ), not as good with football.
How do you know they're good at afl? After all, when was the last time they won the "world cup"?

Re: Australia v Peru

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:02 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Eg, Australia good at AFL, Rugby League, Rugby Union (albeit arguable these days :wink: ), not as good with football.
How do you know they're good at afl? After all, when was the last time they won the "world cup"?
I'm using same analogy of USA being the best at Gridiron. I don't think they've won any World Cups either, but its clear you'll be the most dominant when its your nation's main sport that is only played by a handful (most likely ex-pats) elsewhere. I'd say Ireland would beat anyone in Gaelic football and Hurling as well, without having won "World Cups".