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Author:  Bomber [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:20 am ]
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Interesting - implement a dodgy system then run away, win or lose. Hmmm........

Author:  Mr Red [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:23 am ]
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Yep Either after the next 2 games or after the next WC.

I get the feeling he feels he has had enough and he wants to move onto something else.

I think it will be good for him and the game in Aust.

He has done well overall though and that shouldn't be forgotten.

Author:  Brian the Postman [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:29 am ]
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Bomber wrote:
Interesting - implement a dodgy system then run away, win or lose. Hmmm........


That's probably why he brought Gombau into the group for his expertise in this strategy.

Author:  ozzie owl [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:42 am ]
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Pretty poor by Ange to anounce prior to the last two WC qualifiers, should havce said nothing and anounced it after our fate was known.

Author:  six and out [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:08 pm ]
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ozzie owl wrote:
Pretty poor by Ange to anounce prior to the last two WC qualifiers, should havce said nothing and anounced it after our fate was known.


Pretty poor the abuse from all the experts before the quaifiers are over.

Author:  ozzie owl [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:18 pm ]
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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:
Pretty poor by Ange to anounce prior to the last two WC qualifiers, should havce said nothing and anounced it after our fate was known.


Pretty poor the abuse from all the experts before the quaifiers are over.


Media pressure on national team manager is not unique to Australia. No isues with his view or decision, however his timing is very poor.

Author:  Mr Red [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:36 pm ]
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Mr Red wrote:
Yep Either after the next 2 games or after the next WC.

I get the feeling he feels he has had enough and he wants to move onto something else.

I think it will be good for him and the game in Aust.

He has done well overall though and that shouldn't be forgotten.


arr so now he has said he is going after the next 2 games no matter what the results. ie he is not going to the WC even if we qualify

Author:  Con M [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:46 pm ]
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Should go now! Wot's Guus doing these days?

Author:  Grosso [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:55 pm ]
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Mr Red wrote:
Yep Either after the next 2 games or after the next WC.

I get the feeling he feels he has had enough and he wants to move onto something else.

I think it will be good for him and the game in Aust.

He has done well overall though and that shouldn't be forgotten.


He's been a disaster :lol:

Author:  Mr Red [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:05 pm ]
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He has been in the role for 4 years so he must have done a few things right. :wink:

Author:  The_Pessimist [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:26 pm ]
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wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off

Author:  The_Pessimist [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:27 pm ]
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Guss Hiddink won't do much with a bunch of donkeys. Can't teach old dogs new tricks.

Author:  FoundIt [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:23 pm ]
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The_Pessimist wrote:
Guss Hiddink won't do much with a bunch of donkeys. Can't teach old dogs new tricks.


the players are not old dogs. far from it. still have the ability to learn at any age

Author:  Grosso [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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What kind of idiot coach leaves Tim Cahill on the bench for most of the qualifiers then drops the only outfield EPL player for Brad fucking Smith :lol:

The guy is a hack. There's no one in this country qualified to coach your NT.

Author:  Mr Red [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:36 pm ]
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He has done some strange things recently which you do have to wonder about.

He isn't a happy chappy hence why he is leaving the role.

I wonder if the FFA will step in and say go now?

Author:  Rookie [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:17 pm ]
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The_Pessimist wrote:
wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off


GREAT POST.

Author:  Sacred Noodle [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:30 pm ]
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But Australia has followed the famed Dutch system for the last 8 years or so !!!!!

Funny how Australia are Shiraz and the Dutch probably wont even make the World Cup !!

Author:  predrag [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:32 pm ]
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Ange & trump have the same treatment by media as each other!

Author:  six and out [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:45 pm ]
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Grosso wrote:
What kind of idiot coach leaves Tim Cahill on the bench for most of the qualifiers then drops the only outfield EPL player for Brad fucking Smith :lol:

The guy is a hack. There's no one in this country qualified to coach your NT.


I always thought Brad Smith was an outfield EPL player.

Author:  six and out [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:46 pm ]
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The_Pessimist wrote:
wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off


some great current players are one footed.

Author:  Grosso [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:11 pm ]
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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
Grosso wrote:
What kind of idiot coach leaves Tim Cahill on the bench for most of the qualifiers then drops the only outfield EPL player for Brad fucking Smith :lol:

The guy is a hack. There's no one in this country qualified to coach your NT.


I always thought Brad Smith was an outfield EPL player.


Players play.

Author:  pernunz [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:25 pm ]
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Took the national side to the World Cup where they were on the verge of beating the Netherlands, and won a continental trophy held in our own country. Still a very respectable effort, despite the lackluster recent form.

Author:  Old Master [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:39 pm ]
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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
The_Pessimist wrote:
wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off


some great current players are one footed.



Including Stevie G.

Imagine how good they would have been if they were two footed.

I always used to coach my teams to use both feet where possible and most could manage it but some could never get the hang of it.

All my own children were ambidextrous like me.

Author:  six and out [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:55 pm ]
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Old Master wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
The_Pessimist wrote:
wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off


some great current players are one footed.



Including Stevie G.

Imagine how good they would have been if they were two footed.

I always used to coach my teams to use both feet where possible and most could manage it but some could never get the hang of it.

All my own children were ambidextrous like me.


Shows you haven’t ever seen Gerrard play then!
Of course you were great with both feet, what weren’t you good at?

Author:  Brian the Postman [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:13 pm ]
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pernunz wrote:
Took the national side to the World Cup where they were on the verge of beating the Netherlands, and won a continental trophy held in our own country. Still a very respectable effort, despite the lackluster recent form.


Weren't they already qualified when he was appointed?

Author:  Grosso [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:16 pm ]
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Brian the Postman wrote:
pernunz wrote:
Took the national side to the World Cup where they were on the verge of beating the Netherlands, and won a continental trophy held in our own country. Still a very respectable effort, despite the lackluster recent form.


Weren't they already qualified when he was appointed?


he held their hands :lol:

Author:  The Shape [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:27 pm ]
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Old Master wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
The_Pessimist wrote:
wow... everyone here blaming the coach.

Might help if our players can learn to use two feet, pass a 5 m ball and learn how to cross consistently. That is technical clout which we do not have.

Juniors should be taught how to use both feet. That means, conducting training sessions solely with the opposite foot like they do in europe. Everytime the ball touchers your preferred foot, 10 pushups. Don't like it? F*** off


some great current players are one footed.



Including Stevie G.

Imagine how good they would have been if they were two footed.

I always used to coach my teams to use both feet where possible and most could manage it but some could never get the hang of it.

All my own children were ambidextrous like me.


Yes
It would be good I have seen teams from the ffsa skillaroos and NTC teams play Adelaide City and other club teams and play to their best as 13-15yo using their favoured side
It would be suitable if those coaches concentrated on balanced players rather than making sure they beat all the clubs with players using their favoured leg

Author:  Brian the Postman [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:37 am ]
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Grosso wrote:
Brian the Postman wrote:
pernunz wrote:
Took the national side to the World Cup where they were on the verge of beating the Netherlands, and won a continental trophy held in our own country. Still a very respectable effort, despite the lackluster recent form.


Weren't they already qualified when he was appointed?


he held their hands :lol:


The only other explanation is that he flew the plane?

Author:  The_Pessimist [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:09 am ]
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FoundIt wrote:
The_Pessimist wrote:
Guss Hiddink won't do much with a bunch of donkeys. Can't teach old dogs new tricks.


the players are not old dogs. far from it. still have the ability to learn at any age


I disagree, It is much harder to learn new skills when you are 18 plus. When you are a child, you soak up a lot more knowledge. It has been clinically proven that a young brain learns and absorbs knowledge at a faster rate.

Author:  The_Pessimist [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:10 am ]
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Grosso wrote:
What kind of idiot coach leaves Tim Cahill on the bench for most of the qualifiers then drops the only outfield EPL player for Brad fucking Smith :lol:

The guy is a hack. There's no one in this country qualified to coach your NT.


A coach that knows that Tim Cahill's hamstring will probably pop if he tries to play him 90 minutes every game.

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