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Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:53 pm
by Old Master
I just hope the FFA has the intelligence to keep him involved somehow as he has so much experience and could continue to be an inspiration for upcoming players.

I think in Boyle they have found Tim's successor as long as they provide him with the necessary talent for him to work with.

That means utilising the upcoming talents of players like Mabil, McClaren - with whom he has developed a great understanding at Hibs - and Arzani - when he is fit again.

I think that Degenek should be used more as a Central Defender, as he has the pace that is lacking in others in the centre of defence.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:37 pm
by ozzie owl
Old Master wrote:I just hope the FFA has the intelligence to keep him involved somehow as he has so much experience and could continue to be an inspiration for upcoming players.

I think in Boyle they have found Tim's successor as long as they provide him with the necessary talent for him to work with.

That means utilising the upcoming talents of players like Mabil, McClaren - with whom he has developed a great understanding at Hibs - and Arzani - when he is fit again.

I think that Degenek should be used more as a Central Defender, as he has the pace that is lacking in others in the centre of defence.
Martin Boyle is more of a winger so not sure if he is a replacement for Tim Cahill. IMO the central striker position is still a problem spot for Australia.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:05 pm
by God is an Englishman
ozzie owl wrote:
Old Master wrote:I just hope the FFA has the intelligence to keep him involved somehow as he has so much experience and could continue to be an inspiration for upcoming players.

I think in Boyle they have found Tim's successor as long as they provide him with the necessary talent for him to work with.

That means utilising the upcoming talents of players like Mabil, McClaren - with whom he has developed a great understanding at Hibs - and Arzani - when he is fit again.

I think that Degenek should be used more as a Central Defender, as he has the pace that is lacking in others in the centre of defence.
Martin Boyle is more of a winger so not sure if he is a replacement for Tim Cahill. IMO the central striker position is still a problem spot for Australia.
How many games have you watched him play?

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:09 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:
Old Master wrote:I just hope the FFA has the intelligence to keep him involved somehow as he has so much experience and could continue to be an inspiration for upcoming players.

I think in Boyle they have found Tim's successor as long as they provide him with the necessary talent for him to work with.

That means utilising the upcoming talents of players like Mabil, McClaren - with whom he has developed a great understanding at Hibs - and Arzani - when he is fit again.

I think that Degenek should be used more as a Central Defender, as he has the pace that is lacking in others in the centre of defence.
Martin Boyle is more of a winger so not sure if he is a replacement for Tim Cahill. IMO the central striker position is still a problem spot for Australia.
How many games have you watched him play?
Probably played for one of the teams he follows. :wink:

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:54 am
by Old Master
Tim Cahill wasn't a true striker either, he just ended up as the only Aussie that could do the job consistently enough to be given the position.

Boyle will probably end up the same as not many Aussies are developed in through the Juniors, NPL, and A-League, due to the constant 'need' to push them up the age groups until they lose interest due to injury, etc.

I've seen it happen regularly in the NPL Juniors over the years - let them play in their own age group until they are physically and mentally ready to move up.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
by God is an Englishman
Old Master wrote:Tim Cahill wasn't a true striker either, he just ended up as the only Aussie that could do the job consistently enough to be given the position.

Boyle will probably end up the same as not many Aussies are developed in through the Juniors, NPL, and A-League, due to the constant 'need' to push them up the age groups until they lose interest due to injury, etc.

I've seen it happen regularly in the NPL Juniors over the years - let them play in their own age group until they are physically and mentally ready to move up.

I actually agree with your first point. Peobably seen him play 50 games in Midfield.

My son played up 2 years last year and he loved it.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
by God is an Englishman
Old Master wrote:Tim Cahill wasn't a true striker either, he just ended up as the only Aussie that could do the job consistently enough to be given the position.

Boyle will probably end up the same as not many Aussies are developed in through the Juniors, NPL, and A-League, due to the constant 'need' to push them up the age groups until they lose interest due to injury, etc.

I've seen it happen regularly in the NPL Juniors over the years - let them play in their own age group until they are physically and mentally ready to move up.

I actually agree with your first point. Peobably seen him play 50 games in Midfield.

My son played up 2 years last year and he loved it.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
by God is an Englishman
Old Master wrote:Tim Cahill wasn't a true striker either, he just ended up as the only Aussie that could do the job consistently enough to be given the position.

Boyle will probably end up the same as not many Aussies are developed in through the Juniors, NPL, and A-League, due to the constant 'need' to push them up the age groups until they lose interest due to injury, etc.

I've seen it happen regularly in the NPL Juniors over the years - let them play in their own age group until they are physically and mentally ready to move up.

I actually agree with your first point. Peobably seen him play 50 games in Midfield.

My son played up 2 years last year and he loved it.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:04 am
by Wayne Kerr
you agree so much that you repeated yourself... 3 times!

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:25 pm
by Old Master
Wayne Kerr wrote:you agree so much that you repeated yourself... 3 times!

I have that effect on him. :oops:

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:37 pm
by God is an Englishman
Wayne Kerr wrote:you agree so much that you repeated yourself... 3 times!
You have to repeat yourself with him, the senile old fool doesn’t remember otherwise.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm
by Old Redback
Bomber wrote:He mentioned about giving something more back to the game over here, so maybe a coach in the making? He'd be a good assistant for someone assuming he wanted to start slowly.
Yeah we saw how he wanted to "give back" when he took a big wage out of Melbourne City and then spat the dummy and naffed on when they didn't pick him....

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:00 pm
by God is an Englishman
Old Redback wrote:
Bomber wrote:He mentioned about giving something more back to the game over here, so maybe a coach in the making? He'd be a good assistant for someone assuming he wanted to start slowly.
Yeah we saw how he wanted to "give back" when he took a big wage out of Melbourne City and then spat the dummy and naffed on when they didn't pick him....

He could have got a lot more money elsewhere.

He turned down a lot more money from forest to sign for Millwall.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:20 pm
by Old Master
God is an Englishman wrote:
Old Redback wrote:
Bomber wrote:He mentioned about giving something more back to the game over here, so maybe a coach in the making? He'd be a good assistant for someone assuming he wanted to start slowly.
Yeah we saw how he wanted to "give back" when he took a big wage out of Melbourne City and then spat the dummy and naffed on when they didn't pick him....

He could have got a lot more money elsewhere.

He turned down a lot more money from forest to sign for Millwall.

And look how you treated one of your greatest ever players.

Re: Cahill proves he's one of our greatest

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:07 pm
by God is an Englishman
Old Master wrote:
And look how you treated one of your greatest ever players.

Finally some acceptance of good things done by Millwall. He was treated like a prodigal son. He loved coming home.