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Big game tomorrow night away to Japan.

UAE beating Saudi Arabia 2-1 last night helped but getting a result here is still very important.

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Got a feeling we'll lose 2-1 but qualify anyway at the end
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I'm hoping for a draw, which I think is possible.

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Mr Red wrote:I'm hoping for a draw, which I think is possible.
Both teams could sit back and benefit to a degree from this. Doubt it will be as "laid back" somehow though
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Queenslanders have their NRL "derby" tonight, Victorians have their Sam Newman & Eddie-everywhere - but hopefully a fair chunk of mainstream Aussies will tune into the World Cup Qualifier blockbuster on 9GO! (Ch 93.99) @ 8.05pm this Thursday 31 August.

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Queenslanders have their NRL "derby" tonight, Victorians have their Sam Newman & Eddie-everywhere - but hopefully a fair chunk of mainstream Aussies will tune into the World Cup Qualifier blockbuster on 9GO! (Ch 93.99) @ 8.05pm this Thursday 31 August.

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Australia well and truly outplayed by Japan tonight , not one chance clear cut chance in the 2nd half.

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ozzie owl wrote:Australia well and truly outplayed by Japan tonight , not one chance clear cut chance in the 2nd half.
Surely the world's easiest team to coach against. This is the set-up, like it or not.

3 at the back, no flexibility.

Thailand will even exploit this if not careful.
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Bomber wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Australia well and truly outplayed by Japan tonight , not one chance clear cut chance in the 2nd half.
Surely the world's easiest team to coach against. This is the set-up, like it or not.

3 at the back, no flexibility.

Thailand will even exploit this if not careful.
Total stupidity.

These guys would rather see the NT go down and stick with the philosophy than see the NT prosper. Absolutely selfish.
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OK, we might have to do it the hard way again.

A playoff against 3rd from the other Asian Group, Syria or Uzbekistan. (An aside, is Syria's capital Damascus still considered a war zone?).

Then the next hurdle would be the 4th-placed team in the CONCACAF region, Panama or Honduras.

Both play-off stages do-able. The main thing is we qualify for the World Cup Finals in Russia. We just HAVE to be at the main table in 2018 for the benefit of the game in this country.

ps Bomber, re your comment about flexibility - I just don't get Ange at the moment. During his golden reign @ Brisbane Roar he went with a back-four. Same when winning the Asian Nations Cup. As you said, fast Thai wingers could exploit Ange's back-three.

And a minor point - I wish Ange wouldn't look at the ground during his press conferences. IMO he comes across as either shy or arrogant.

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Ange' s 3-shambles -1 formation again.

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Sometimes it feels with Ange he deliberately wants to be different to show how clever he is.

Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.
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Brian the Postman wrote:Sometimes it feels with Ange he deliberately wants to be different to show how clever he is.

Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.
He has said this is his last WC campaign even if we qualify.

As for Kruse I agree he is not a not a number 9 .

The 3-shambles-1 formation worries me as well. The only time the three at the back worked was against Chile in the Confederations Cup.

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Brian the Postman wrote:Sometimes it feels with Ange he deliberately wants to be different to show how clever he is.

Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.
Can't believe I'm saying this after admiring Ange in the Asian Cup & what he achieved @ Brisbane Roar. But the FFA should think about getting a bounce out of a new coach IF we're in playoffs against say, Syria or Uzbekistan, then Honduras or U.S.A.

It worked with Hiddink, didn't it?

ps, any forumites see Bozza's blast @ Postecoglou? It included Ange's ridiculous TV presentation when he continually looks at the ground instead of the interviewer & camera. I've said it before again & again - to mainstream Aussies it looks like he's either shy or an arrogant tactics-snob.

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Con M wrote:
Brian the Postman wrote:Sometimes it feels with Ange he deliberately wants to be different to show how clever he is.

Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.
Can't believe I'm saying this after admiring Ange in the Asian Cup & what he achieved @ Brisbane Roar. But the FFA should think about getting a bounce out of a new coach IF we're in playoffs against say, Syria or Uzbekistan, then Honduras or U.S.A.

It worked with Hiddink, didn't it?

ps, any forumites see Bozza's blast @ Postecoglou? It included Ange's ridiculous TV presentation when he continually looks at the ground instead of the interviewer & camera. I've said it before again & again - to mainstream Aussies it looks like he's either shy or an arrogant tactics-snob.
Gombau to replace Ange maybe ?? Would the FFA go the foreign coach , or would they choose local again ?
Arnold would be the obvious choice.

back 3 formation against Japan was a recipe for disaster...
Playing Kruse up front as the #9 baffles most of us, alas , Ange was probably thinking witj Juric injured, I cant expect Cahill or Mclaren do the job...
Should of played a 4231 of 4321 formation. keep it tight at the back and hit japan on the counter

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nachoman wrote: Should of played a 4231 of 4321 formation. keep it tight at the back and hit japan on the counter
Anti football.

We want Australia playing like Barcelona in 10 years time.
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nachoman wrote: Should of played a 4231 of 4321 formation. keep it tight at the back and hit japan on the counter
Anti football.

We want Australia playing like Barcelona in 10 years time.
Tim Cahill will be 48 :lol:

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nachoman wrote:
Con M wrote:
Brian the Postman wrote:Sometimes it feels with Ange he deliberately wants to be different to show how clever he is.

Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.
Can't believe I'm saying this after admiring Ange in the Asian Cup & what he achieved @ Brisbane Roar. But the FFA should think about getting a bounce out of a new coach IF we're in playoffs against say, Syria or Uzbekistan, then Honduras or U.S.A.

It worked with Hiddink, didn't it?

ps, any forumites see Bozza's blast @ Postecoglou? It included Ange's ridiculous TV presentation when he continually looks at the ground instead of the interviewer & camera. I've said it before again & again - to mainstream Aussies it looks like he's either shy or an arrogant tactics-snob.
Gombau to replace Ange maybe ?? Would the FFA go the foreign coach , or would they choose local again ?
Arnold would be the obvious choice.

back 3 formation against Japan was a recipe for disaster...
Playing Kruse up front as the #9 baffles most of us, alas , Ange was probably thinking witj Juric injured, I cant expect Cahill or Mclaren do the job...
Should of played a 4231 of 4321 formation. keep it tight at the back and hit japan on the counter
Please god no Gombau, he is there because he is of the same ilk as Ange (though probably not as tactically savvy).

We are too predictable and labored as it is, I couldn't handle the national team playing like Adelaide United from 3 years ago.
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Picking Robbie Kruse as a centre forward stank of him trying to show off some tactical sophistication rather than some tactical sensibility.

If he doesn't make the World Cup he has to go.[/quote]
Can't believe I'm saying this after admiring Ange in the Asian Cup & what he achieved @ Brisbane Roar. But the FFA should think about getting a bounce out of a new coach IF we're in playoffs against say, Syria or Uzbekistan, then Honduras or U.S.A.

It worked with Hiddink, didn't it?

ps, any forumites see Bozza's blast @ Postecoglou? It included Ange's ridiculous TV presentation when he continually looks at the ground instead of the interviewer & camera. I've said it before again & again - to mainstream Aussies it looks like he's either shy or an arrogant tactics-snob.[/quote]

Gombau to replace Ange maybe ?? Would the FFA go the foreign coach , or would they choose local again ?
Arnold would be the obvious choice.

back 3 formation against Japan was a recipe for disaster...
Playing Kruse up front as the #9 baffles most of us, alas , Ange was probably thinking witj Juric injured, I cant expect Cahill or Mclaren do the job...
Should of played a 4231 of 4321 formation. keep it tight at the back and hit japan on the counter[/quote]

Please god no Gombau, he is there because he is of the same ilk as Ange (though probably not as tactically savvy).

We are too predictable and labored as it is, I couldn't handle the national team playing like Adelaide United from 3 years ago.[/quote]


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If Ange loses the first qualifier we can always replace him with the Matilda's coach.
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