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I reckon there's a guy called Ange having a bit of a laugh declaring "well, you got what you wished for"...

Where was the tactical flexibility?
Weren't we supposed to play like Liverpool?
Haven't we been knocking in goals for fun during friendliest?



If Ange was in charge you would have wet yourself with a performance like that.


no I wouldn't....but thanks for answering the 1st question....

we should win our next 2 games and proceed to the knock-out phase only to come up against similar teams......persisting with a back 4 when the opposition play 1 up front, meaning our play was predictable down the flanks...maybe using a back 3 would've been the better option....oh no, wait....that would be too radical....


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Arnold had success in the aleague, as he had the referees to help him.
Its a different kettle of fish in Asia, and the current Aussie squad will be found out again.

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Ange quit, remember.

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Arnold had success in the aleague, as he had the referees to help him.
Its a different kettle of fish in Asia, and the current Aussie squad will be found out again.



Plus the FFA gave them a free ride on the salary cap, as the club was owned by the League's owners.

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Arnold had success in the aleague, as he had the referees to help him.
Its a different kettle of fish in Asia, and the current Aussie squad will be found out again.



Plus the FFA gave them a free ride on the salary cap, as the club was owned by the League's owners.


Here we go, every team gets looked after apart from Adelaide United. :lol:

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MegaBonus wrote:
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I reckon there's a guy called Ange having a bit of a laugh declaring "well, you got what you wished for"...

Where was the tactical flexibility?
Weren't we supposed to play like Liverpool?
Haven't we been knocking in goals for fun during friendliest?



If Ange was in charge you would have wet yourself with a performance like that.


no I wouldn't....but thanks for answering the 1st question....

we should win our next 2 games and proceed to the knock-out phase only to come up against similar teams......persisting with a back 4 when the opposition play 1 up front, meaning our play was predictable down the flanks...maybe using a back 3 would've been the better option....oh no, wait....that would be too radical....


Back 3 isn't radical, it's knowing when to play it.

Whole point of my argument from day dot. We aren't good enough to stick to one philosophy, each game is different requiring a different approach.


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^ Exactly. Playing a system for system's sake and "bugger the opposition" reeks of arrogance and naivety.

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^^^^^ I hope you referring to Arnold and not Ange.....


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I reckon there's a guy called Ange having a bit of a laugh declaring "well, you got what you wished for"...

Where was the tactical flexibility?
Weren't we supposed to play like Liverpool?
Haven't we been knocking in goals for fun during friendliest?



If Ange was in charge you would have wet yourself with a performance like that.


no I wouldn't....but thanks for answering the 1st question....

we should win our next 2 games and proceed to the knock-out phase only to come up against similar teams......persisting with a back 4 when the opposition play 1 up front, meaning our play was predictable down the flanks...maybe using a back 3 would've been the better option....oh no, wait....that would be too radical....


Back 3 isn't radical, it's knowing when to play it.

Whole point of my argument from day dot. We aren't good enough to stick to one philosophy, each game is different requiring a different approach.


you obviously cant detect sarcasm :wink: :wink: ....that's my point, the previous coach was criticised for trying to add technical/formation flexibility against weaker opposition allowing us to adapt to whomever we are playing....how did we respond against Jordan????we didn't, cause we couldn't....


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Arnold/Ange same old same old, although one of the two is probably more of a realist

Fact is this is probably the weakest Oz team to ever set foot into a major tournament, especially given the current injury count.

End of day its only one game and there have been a few upset results so we're not alone.

Shame we didn't hang on to the temp WC coach though - he seemed to grasp getting the best out of what he had using whatever formation was needed.

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Ange quit, remember.



surely, your not that stupid???

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Wayne Kerr wrote:
Arnold had success in the aleague, as he had the referees to help him.
Its a different kettle of fish in Asia, and the current Aussie squad will be found out again.



Plus the FFA gave them a free ride on the salary cap, as the club was owned by the League's owners.


Here we go, every team gets looked after apart from Adelaide United. :lol:



Nowhere in my post did I mention AU......

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Ange quit, remember.



surely, your not that stupid???


Errrr, am I right or am I wrong in my statement? Yes or no. Then re-visit the who is stupid question.

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Wayne Kerr wrote:
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Ange quit, remember.



surely, your not that stupid???


he isn't but you are another matter


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Wayne Kerr wrote:


Nowhere in my post did I mention AU......



Nowhere in my post did I say you did.

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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^^^^^ I hope you referring to Arnold and not Ange.....


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I reckon there's a guy called Ange having a bit of a laugh declaring "well, you got what you wished for"...

Where was the tactical flexibility?
Weren't we supposed to play like Liverpool?
Haven't we been knocking in goals for fun during friendliest?



If Ange was in charge you would have wet yourself with a performance like that.


no I wouldn't....but thanks for answering the 1st question....

we should win our next 2 games and proceed to the knock-out phase only to come up against similar teams......persisting with a back 4 when the opposition play 1 up front, meaning our play was predictable down the flanks...maybe using a back 3 would've been the better option....oh no, wait....that would be too radical....


Back 3 isn't radical, it's knowing when to play it.

Whole point of my argument from day dot. We aren't good enough to stick to one philosophy, each game is different requiring a different approach.


you obviously cant detect sarcasm :wink: :wink: ....that's my point, the previous coach was criticised for trying to add technical/formation flexibility against weaker opposition allowing us to adapt to whomever we are playing....how did we respond against Jordan????we didn't, cause we couldn't....


Ange flexible.

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^^^^^^^

OK....I'm interested thus I'll bite...care to justify your opinion?????


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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MegaBonus wrote:
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OK....I'm interested thus I'll bite...care to justify your opinion?????


I'm interested to hear about this flexibility of which you speak.


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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MegaBonus wrote:
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I reckon there's a guy called Ange having a bit of a laugh declaring "well, you got what you wished for"...

Where was the tactical flexibility?
Weren't we supposed to play like Liverpool?
Haven't we been knocking in goals for fun during friendliest?



If Ange was in charge you would have wet yourself with a performance like that.


no I wouldn't....but thanks for answering the 1st question....

we should win our next 2 games and proceed to the knock-out phase only to come up against similar teams......persisting with a back 4 when the opposition play 1 up front, meaning our play was predictable down the flanks...maybe using a back 3 would've been the better option....oh no, wait....that would be too radical....


The fullbacks played so high it was pretty much a back 3 with the centre backs splitting and Milligan dropping deep to get easy ball.

Do you even watch the games?

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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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fullbacks played high because Jordan sat deep....do you even understand the game? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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I am just watching Thailand vs Bahrain and thinking how poor a standard the Asian teams throughout this tournament. I actually think Aus played well and with luck, and they get through to the later stages, they will be more than competitive. Japan and S Korea were lucky. I have not watched Iran and they appear the form side.


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 Post subject: Re: Socceroos - Road to 2019 AFC Asian Cup
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Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


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Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Mega bonus and Ange must be spewing about the result.

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yeah right....im happy we are winning....but you do realise its Palestine......


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Brian the Postman wrote:
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Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Mega bonus and Ange must be spewing about the result.

I don't rate Arnie but Ange would be pricking a voodoo doll atm.


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eagleboy wrote:
Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Kruse dropped win 3-0 , he cannot start against Syria .


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ozzie owl wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Kruse dropped win 3-0 , he cannot start against Syria .


Palestine....solid benchmark


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These must be the 'Mickey Mouse' teams that Sutton was talking about - but they'd wipe the floor with Celtic. :lol:

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These must be the 'Mickey Mouse' teams that Sutton was talking about - but they'd wipe the floor with Celtic. :lol:



I despise celtic but you don't seriously think that do you?

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eagleboy wrote:
Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Kruse dropped win 3-0 , he cannot start against Syria .


Palestine....solid benchmark


You miss the mark as always.


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ozzie owl wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
Kruse on the bench against Palestine. About BT. Luongo also there, a bit disappointed there but 2:0 up at the moment and playing well.


Kruse dropped win 3-0 , he cannot start against Syria .


Our offside count fell dramatically so did the easy ball giveaway diminish. You can only beat who is in front of you.


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