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I wonder if the current and future sanctions on Russian oligarchs such was Abramovich what will be the impact on Chelsea? Especially given the he has loaned the club over £2b along the journey .

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Should put this in wild west topic. Abramovich hasn't been sanctioned and is a duel citizen with Israel.

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eagleboy wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:13 am Should put this in wild west topic. Abramovich hasn't been sanctioned and is a duel citizen with Israel.

Relates to an EPL club.

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dont worry about abramovic, he will be ok as long as he does what vladimer putrid tells him, instead worry about the working mens sons on both sides who putrid has condemed to death, just finished reading the day of the jackal, about time he made a comeback i reckon, all wars should have ended after hiroshima and nagasaki, :thumbdown:

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As Putin bashes/locks up/kills opposition to him in Russia, most people do not know that the Ukrainians have been following his tactics by doing the same to the delegates from the pre 2014 majority party in Ukrainian parliament called the party of regions which led to a civil war/breakaway regions & 15000 dead so far.I just never thought it would leed to a Russian invasion, then again ever since news of joining NATO was around i think plans were drawn up by vlads general staff.So if the last president was a Russian puppet who was democratically elected, what is zelensky now?The question is how does it all end?

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As a Chelsea fan, I am disappointed that this will impact their match tonight but to get it into perspective the match means nothing compared to what is happening in the Ukraine. As far as Abramovich goes , I am not sure he can be to vocal. Even powerful Russian oligarchs like him are known to disappear or develop lead poisoning if they complain about Vlad.

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eagleboy wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:30 pm As a Chelsea fan, I am disappointed that this will impact their match tonight but to get it into perspective the match means nothing compared to what is happening in the Ukraine. As far as Abramovich goes , I am not sure he can be to vocal. Even powerful Russian oligarchs like him are known to disappear or develop lead poisoning if they complain about Vlad.
If you get a chance read the book “ The Billionaires Club “ , there is whole chapter on Russian oligarchs and sport.

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Oh well, at least the trophy went to the "right team" over night. :D
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The goal that chelsea had chopped offin the 7th minute of extra time looked like a harsh decision to me.
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Black Panther wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:38 am The goal that chelsea had chopped offin the 7th minute of extra time looked like a harsh decision to me.
Looks like any goal 'Put in' by Chelsea from now on will be scrutinised!

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WTF he appeared as a peacekeeping negotiator in Belarus overnight?

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predrag wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:34 pm WTF he appeared as a peacekeeping negotiator in Belarus overnight?
As a Ukranian/Russian he seems a good fit for that role.
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As a Jew he can take a neutral standpoint, maybe get them to play a football game at Samford bridge against each other & to the winner the spoils instead of war.

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Stamford !

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predrag wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:44 pmStamford !
:lol: Now he's shitting himself that his assets will be frozen, so he's selling up and will probably end living up in Israel.

All the oligarchs effectively stole their wealth, with the blessing and help of Putin, from the Russian people. It's hard to feel sorry for any of them.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 am
predrag wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:44 pmStamford !
:lol: Now he's shitting himself that his assets will be frozen, so he's selling up and will probably end living up in Israel.

All the oligarchs effectively stole their wealth, with the blessing and help of Putin, from the Russian people. It's hard to feel sorry for any of them.
What did Abramovich steal?
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:24 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 am
predrag wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:44 pmStamford !
:lol: Now he's shitting himself that his assets will be frozen, so he's selling up and will probably end living up in Israel.

All the oligarchs effectively stole their wealth, with the blessing and help of Putin, from the Russian people. It's hard to feel sorry for any of them.
What did Abramovich steal?
I know you're being pedantic, which is why I wrote 'effectively stole'. He could not have taken control of Sibneft at a massive discount to true value, without the collusion of the Russian government and the payment of bribes etc, which was probably before Putin took control to be fair.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:09 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:24 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 am
predrag wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:44 pmStamford !
:lol: Now he's shitting himself that his assets will be frozen, so he's selling up and will probably end living up in Israel.

All the oligarchs effectively stole their wealth, with the blessing and help of Putin, from the Russian people. It's hard to feel sorry for any of them.
What did Abramovich steal?
I know you're being pedantic, which is why I wrote 'effectively stole'. He could not have taken control of Sibneft at a massive discount to true value, without the collusion of the Russian government and the payment of bribes etc, which was probably before Putin took control to be fair.
So, Everton effectively stole Cahill from Millwall?

Him having his money before Putin was going to be my next point.

Abramovich is one of the best owners in the country. Chelsea fans will be very disappointed to see him go.

This all seems to be a case of looking for reasons to punish all russians to me. He's ukranian, offered to help peace and is donating money to victims of war.

Even when selling he's looking after Chelsea's interests.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amSo, Everton effectively stole Cahill from Millwall?

This all seems to be a case of looking for reasons to punish all russians to me.
I know nothing, nor care a jot, about Cahill's transfer, but I bet it was all out in the open and transparent even if, as you seem to imply, it was below your perceived market value. The purchase of the Russian State assets was patently not. I don't blame the likes of Abramovich for taking advantage of the situation, but I sure as hell don't feel sorry for him.

I do however agree that this is very much Putin's war, not the Russian peoples and we shouldn't be punishing all Russians, the majority of whom live in relative poverty and are just trying to survive in a dictatorship. Even those playing sports outside Russia who are wealthier than average, have families and friends in Russia and will probably want to go back there at some point. It's understandable that they don't speak out against Putin.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amHe's ukranian,
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Bodø wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amHe's ukranian,
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You keep telling yourself that.
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Chelsea up for sale and wants 3b GBP.

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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:22 am
Bodø wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amHe's ukranian,
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Was he entitled to a Ukranian passport at birth?
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Bodø wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:40 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:22 am
Bodø wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amHe's ukranian,
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Yes
Was he entitled to a Ukranian passport at birth?
I am unsure if Ukranian passports existed when he was born.

If they did, then yes.
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In other words no. Thanks for playing.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:47 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:53 amSo, Everton effectively stole Cahill from Millwall?

This all seems to be a case of looking for reasons to punish all russians to me.
I know nothing, nor care a jot, about Cahill's transfer, but I bet it was all out in the open and transparent even if, as you seem to imply, it was below your perceived market value. The purchase of the Russian State assets was patently not. I don't blame the likes of Abramovich for taking advantage of the situation, but I sure as hell don't feel sorry for him.

I do however agree that this is very much Putin's war, not the Russian peoples and we shouldn't be punishing all Russians, the majority of whom live in relative poverty and are just trying to survive in a dictatorship. Even those playing sports outside Russia who are wealthier than average, have families and friends in Russia and will probably want to go back there at some point. It's understandable that they don't speak out against Putin.
otherwise they may end up like that chinese tennis player now faded into history alas, :roll:

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Bodø wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:18 pm In other words no. Thanks for playing.
I don't believe I said that.
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How is he Ukrainian?

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I just read that Abramovich will donate the entire amount from the sale of Chelsea to the victims of war in Ukraine, a truly humane gesture.

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