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predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:06 pm How is he Ukrainian?
the old grandparents trick ? like some of the south africans that the poms claim are poms no doubt in similar manner
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Just Dave now wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:15 pm
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:06 pm How is he Ukrainian?
the old grandparents trick ? like some of the south africans that the poms claim are poms no doubt in similar manner
Correct.

Could be worse though could be playing south africans or pakistanis in the naional side without that heritage.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:40 pm
Just Dave now wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:15 pm
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:06 pm How is he Ukrainian?
the old grandparents trick ? like some of the south africans that the poms claim are poms no doubt in similar manner
Correct.

Could be worse though could be playing south africans or pakistanis in the naional side without that heritage.

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OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.

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Just Dave now wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:11 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:40 pm
Just Dave now wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:15 pm
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:06 pm How is he Ukrainian?
the old grandparents trick ? like some of the south africans that the poms claim are poms no doubt in similar manner
Correct.

Could be worse though could be playing south africans or pakistanis in the naional side without that heritage.

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predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:14 pm I just read that Abramovich will donate the entire amount from the sale of Chelsea to the victims of war in Ukraine, a truly humane gesture.
I think it's only the profit, although how that is defined I'm not sure. In any event it's a lot more than most Russian billionaires will be contributing.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:21 pm
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:14 pm I just read that Abramovich will donate the entire amount from the sale of Chelsea to the victims of war in Ukraine, a truly humane gesture.
I think it's only the profit, although how that is defined I'm not sure. In any event it's a lot more than most Russian billionaires will be contributing.
Most of them will have else to do with their money for some considerable time. :lol: :clap: :clap:
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Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168

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ozzie owl wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:25 pm Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168
Won't hurt the club that much, STH can still attend and the club has already got their money, but it will stop Roman cashing in on it.
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ozzie owl wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:25 pm Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168
Sounds more like their punishing Chelsea. :???:

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eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:34 am
ozzie owl wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:25 pm Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168
Sounds more like their punishing Chelsea. :???:
Really?? Games still go ahead, ST holders can still attend. Looking at allowing a sale to go through but not allow Abramovich access to these proceeds. If you lie with dogs you end up with fleas.
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Raich Carter wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:40 am
eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:34 am
ozzie owl wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:25 pm Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168
Sounds more like their punishing Chelsea. :???:
Really?? Games still go ahead, ST holders can still attend. Looking at allowing a sale to go through but not allow Abramovich access to these proceeds. If you lie with dogs you end up with fleas.
Just reading from OO link. These impact the club

.Chelsea club shop must close, no more match tickets can be sold.
.No new player sales or purchases will be permitted under the licence, and discussions on new deals for players who are out of contract in the summer - such as men's team captain Cesar Azpilicueta - must go on hold
.Chelsea can pay "reasonable" costs of travel to and from fixtures but not exceeding £20,000 per game per team.

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eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:28 am
Raich Carter wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:40 am
eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:34 am
ozzie owl wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:25 pm Chelsea seized by British Government .

Chelsea unable to sell match day tickets or merchandise.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/60688168
Sounds more like their punishing Chelsea. :???:
Really?? Games still go ahead, ST holders can still attend. Looking at allowing a sale to go through but not allow Abramovich access to these proceeds. If you lie with dogs you end up with fleas.
Just reading from OO link. These impact the club

.Chelsea club shop must close, no more match tickets can be sold.
.No new player sales or purchases will be permitted under the licence, and discussions on new deals for players who are out of contract in the summer - such as men's team captain Cesar Azpilicueta - must go on hold
.Chelsea can pay "reasonable" costs of travel to and from fixtures but not exceeding £20,000 per game per team.
Not sure how Chelsea have deserved this.
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Doesn't affect any of you but it's the fans I feel sorry for.

Racism is alive and well it seems
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God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:06 am Doesn't affect any of you but it's the fans I feel sorry for.

Racism is alive and well it seems
Not sure where racism comes into it unless you mean why hasn't the govt sanctioned the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia who own a football club in the EPL for their continual bombing of the Yemen and other human rights atrocities.
Simple, the UK sells billions of dollars worth of arms to the KSA to continue their bombing.
Politics has well and truly reared its head into football. Interesting to see how FIFA deal with such meddling; deflect, ignore and hope it goes away.
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Raich Carter wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:06 am Doesn't affect any of you but it's the fans I feel sorry for.

Racism is alive and well it seems
Not sure where racism comes into it unless you mean why hasn't the govt sanctioned the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia who own a football club in the EPL for their continual bombing of the Yemen and other human rights atrocities.
Simple, the UK sells billions of dollars worth of arms to the KSA to continue their bombing.
Politics has well and truly reared its head into football. Interesting to see how FIFA deal with such meddling; deflect, ignore and hope it goes away.
The reality once the EPL opened up to massive overseas investment and ownership was only a matter of time something like this happened. Let's be honest Chelsea (like many clubs) have flourished funded to the tune of 1.8b GBP by Abramovich, their fans have had a great journey while it lasted. But I do agree it punishes the Chelsea, but I wonder how many Chelsea fans thought about other clubs when Abramovich took over and went on massive spending sprees to win trophies.

FIFA will only act in its own best interests.

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Bomber wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:50 amNot sure how Chelsea have deserved this.
Not sure how the true fans, not the recent plastics who support only success, deserve this. You could say that, by extension, Chelsea have benefitted from money originating from the Russian state assets bought at criminal prices by Roman, but that aside, I don't see how the club is in any way condoning or supporting the war.
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ozzie owl wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:32 amFIFA will only act in its own best interests.
A World Cup in Qatar being a case in point. They claim it's to expand the global reach of football. To Qatar, are they taking the piss? This is a country where raped women are punished for sex outside marriage FFS and hundreds of virtual slaves die building the stadia, not only that, we have to shiraz about with our seasons because of their silly weather.
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Ive been a Chelsea fan forever it seems. From afar albeit, Abramovich has only given much to the club at his cost. Unlike maybe some of the other owners. Its a hobby for him. Punishing the Oligarchs like him is fine if it helps the Ukraine (and I hope it does) but don't punish the best club in the world. Abramovich has also sponsored many noble causes in his countries. Russia, Israel and Portugal.

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predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:04 pm OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.
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Raich Carter wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:06 am Doesn't affect any of you but it's the fans I feel sorry for.

Racism is alive and well it seems
Not sure where racism comes into it unless you mean why hasn't the govt sanctioned the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia who own a football club in the EPL for their continual bombing of the Yemen and other human rights atrocities.
Simple, the UK sells billions of dollars worth of arms to the KSA to continue their bombing.
Politics has well and truly reared its head into football. Interesting to see how FIFA deal with such meddling; deflect, ignore and hope it goes away.
Abramovich is being punished for being russian. Sounds pretty racist to me..
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haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:04 pm OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.
Must be Spurs fans
I wish he'd bought Spurs !
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:23 am
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:04 pm OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.
Must be Spurs fans
I wish he'd bought Spurs !
Mourinho might still be there. ;-)
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Bomber wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:32 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:23 am
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:04 pm OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.
Must be Spurs fans
I wish he'd bought Spurs !
Mourinho might still be there. ;-)
Mourinho with half a billion to spend might have been OK
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:56 am
Bomber wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:32 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:23 am
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
predrag wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:04 pm OK i looked into it, grandparents on mums side were Ukrainian Jews/on paternal side Belarusian Jews who moved to Russia.
Must be Spurs fans
I wish he'd bought Spurs !
Mourinho might still be there. ;-)
Mourinho with half a billion to spend might have been OK
at least russians and arabs actualy like soccer, yanks couldent give a rats and are only there to make money, mr putrids fave sport is hocky :roll:

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eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:58 am Ive been a Chelsea fan forever it seems. From afar albeit, Abramovich has only given much to the club at his cost. Unlike maybe some of the other owners. Its a hobby for him. Punishing the Oligarchs like him is fine if it helps the Ukraine (and I hope it does) but don't punish the best club in the world. Abramovich has also sponsored many noble causes in his countries. Russia, Israel and Portugal.

Chelsea fans chant Roman Abramovich's name before Norwich City match

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/footbal ... hp&pc=U531
Liverpool are not being punished.

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Victor Meldrew wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:10 am
eagleboy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:58 am Ive been a Chelsea fan forever it seems. From afar albeit, Abramovich has only given much to the club at his cost. Unlike maybe some of the other owners. Its a hobby for him. Punishing the Oligarchs like him is fine if it helps the Ukraine (and I hope it does) but don't punish the best club in the world. Abramovich has also sponsored many noble causes in his countries. Russia, Israel and Portugal.

Chelsea fans chant Roman Abramovich's name before Norwich City match

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/footbal ... hp&pc=U531
Liverpool are not being punished.
:lol: :lol: :lol: not in the same conversation

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This has anti-Semitism written all over it, what's next Kristallnacht maybe? :(

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predrag wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:52 pm This has anti-Semitism written all over it, what's next Kristallnacht maybe? :(
The Ukrainian president is Jewish. what's antisemitic? Most people don't have a clue what it means.

And we beat you since becoming world champions, so clearly we are better.

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