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Bomber wrote:I couldn't even see the away crowd until Rangers scored, they ran to celebrate near the corner out of camera normal view.

But 800 tickets is poor. How many do other visiting teams usually get?

At Ibrox, Rangers gave Celtic fans 800 tickets
That is poor also.

I think both clubs need to wake up re this issue.
Sunday's Old Firm derby will be the first meeting between Celtic and Rangers since the clubs moved to drastically reduce the number of away fans who can attend the fixture.

Both clubs used to bring around 7,000 fans to each other's grounds for Scottish football's biggest and most volatile fixture, but there will only be 800 Rangers fans in attendance for Sunday's meeting at Celtic Park.

Rangers made the first move to drastically cut the number of Celtic fans who can attend derbies at Ibrox by ending the club's mutual agreement in the summer, with an unhappy Celtic swiftly responding in kind.

A Celtic statement in July read: “Celtic Football Club has confirmed that it will issue approximately 800 tickets to visiting supporters for the fixture against Rangers at Celtic Park on September 2. This mirrors the decision announced recently by Rangers.

“This is not a development we welcome and it is unfortunate that the initial decision came without any form of discussion. The previous arrangements worked well for both sets of supporters as well as contributing to the status of the fixture as a sporting occasion.

“Following the unilateral action by Rangers, we cannot allow our own supporters to be doubly penalised, by having access to the away fixture reduced so dramatically, while not being offered the opportunity to maximise our own support at Celtic Park."

The fans clashed at the Celtic Park meeting in April, while Rangers fans have voiced their dissatisfaction with Celtic supporters being allowed to sit in Ibrox's Broomloan Road stand.

The game kicks off at 12pm on Sunday, with Rangers boss Steven Gerrard facing his former Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers for the first time.
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Well done Michael with the quote, good work digging it out. Celtic were always AGAINST it in the first place and reluctantly responded in kind. Anyone who tries to blame Celtic is just plainly anti-Celtic. ie. GIAE for example.
At least the likes of Bomber (a self-confessed 'teddy bear') is more diplomatic with his view and to be honest it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
Hope that Rangers publicly admit they were wrong and go back to how it was. IMO things are complicated enough without adding extra baggage. A typical Glaswegian is mad enough without the Old Firm, religion and alcohol. Little wonder that the authorities cringe any time they are due to play. So many arrests and serious assaults in the City(and beyond) no matter the the result of the game. Passion should be welcomed but bigotry and the vile hatred it breeds should not be tolerated on any terms.
I've lived and breathed it and it is not down to one set of supporters but BOTH. I have been proud and ashamed at times with my own club (Celtic) but in truth they have welcomed both Catholic and Protestant players and Managers throughout their history. The same cannot be said of Rangers who discriminated against employing Catholic players up until as recently as 1989 when Graeme Souness signed Maurice Johnston.

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No respect for their betters.

Rangers have decided against giving Celtic a guard of honour before Sunday's Old Firm derby to pay tribute to the eight-in-a-row champions.

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eagleboy wrote:No respect for their betters.

Rangers have decided against giving Celtic a guard of honour before Sunday's Old Firm derby to pay tribute to the eight-in-a-row champions.
You'll have to show me where this forms part of the world football protocol book.
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just because its not written, it doesn't mean it doesn't get done.....

you yourself Bomber would engage in hundreds of behaviours that aren't written in a protocol book

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eagleboy wrote:No respect for their betters.

Rangers have decided against giving Celtic a guard of honour before Sunday's Old Firm derby to pay tribute to the eight-in-a-row champions.
You'll have to show me where this forms part of the world football protocol book.

Its been happening since football, its all about "RESPECT".
Sadly, this concept is being eroded out of society!
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MegaBonus wrote:just because its not written, it doesn't mean it doesn't get done.....

you yourself Bomber would engage in hundreds of behaviours that aren't written in a protocol book
Well I guess Croydon are owed from 2014 and 2017 too then (round 1 following season). Shame on all NPL clubs for not following such protocol.
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MegaBonus wrote:just because its not written, it doesn't mean it doesn't get done.....

you yourself Bomber would engage in hundreds of behaviours that aren't written in a protocol book
Hundreds? Feel free to give just a few examples.
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do you shake hands when you meet people?
do you allow elderly people to cut the line or give up your seat for them
do you clap off an opposition injured player
down a narrow street, when the other driver stops to allow you through, do you acknowledge with a wave or a tilt of the head
do you open the door for a female
etc etc

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Michael wrote:
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eagleboy wrote:No respect for their betters.

Rangers have decided against giving Celtic a guard of honour before Sunday's Old Firm derby to pay tribute to the eight-in-a-row champions.
You'll have to show me where this forms part of the world football protocol book.

Its been happening since football, its all about "RESPECT".
Sadly, this concept is being eroded out of society!
Sevco rangers are relatively new to the competition, cut them some slsck.
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MegaBonus wrote:do you shake hands when you meet people?
do you allow elderly people to cut the line or give up your seat for them
do you clap off an opposition injured player
down a narrow street, when the other driver stops to allow you through, do you acknowledge with a wave or a tilt of the head
do you open the door for a female
etc etc
Yes
Yes
Not often but usually only if person is seriously injured or stretchered off
Yes
Sometimes, although once was "told off" by said woman saying she could manage.

So how does this stand up against your theory so far?
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I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made

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MegaBonus wrote:I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made
There's protocol and there's following like sheep because some people suddenly do things in certain ways.

Have Celtic (albeit in the past) ever lined up to cheer Rangers after a title success? Or is this something relatively "new"?
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Bomber wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made
There's protocol and there's following like sheep because some people suddenly do things in certain ways.

Have Celtic (albeit in the past) ever lined up to cheer Rangers after a title success? Or is this something relatively "new"?
Not in the last 8 seasons I recall. :shock: My memory is faded after that. I am sure many Celtic supporters have acknowledged Rangers supporters with a friendly Glasgow Kiss.
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I don't think its new.....I did it here as a coach 17 years ago...I asked my players to form a guard of honour as the newly crowned champions entered the field....once the whistle blew to start the game, there was no quarter given nor asked.

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MegaBonus wrote:I don't think its new.....I did it here as a coach 17 years ago...I asked my players to form a guard of honour as the newly crowned champions entered the field....once the whistle blew to start the game, there was no quarter given nor asked.
Your choice. Still not convinced it's protocol.
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Bomber wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:I don't think its new.....I did it here as a coach 17 years ago...I asked my players to form a guard of honour as the newly crowned champions entered the field....once the whistle blew to start the game, there was no quarter given nor asked.
Your choice. Still not convinced it's protocol.
It's not, it's a new thing. I would refuse to take part in it.

Good on Rangers for not doing it.
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eagleboy wrote:
Bomber wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made
There's protocol and there's following like sheep because some people suddenly do things in certain ways.

Have Celtic (albeit in the past) ever lined up to cheer Rangers after a title success? Or is this something relatively "new"?
Not in the last 8 seasons I recall. :shock: My memory is faded after that. I am sure many Celtic supporters have acknowledged Rangers supporters with a friendly Glasgow Kiss.
Memory faded for obvious reasons I suspect.

Serious question - when Scotland national team plays home games - do Celtic & Rangers supporters "mingle" as one?
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Bomber wrote: Memory faded for obvious reasons I suspect.

Serious question - when Scotland national team plays home games - do Celtic & Rangers supporters "mingle" as one?
Why would celtic supporters be at a scotland game?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote: Memory faded for obvious reasons I suspect.

Serious question - when Scotland national team plays home games - do Celtic & Rangers supporters "mingle" as one?
Why would celtic supporters be at a scotland game?
I was hoping someone else would answer as I knew you'd say that (or similar). :lol:
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eagleboy wrote:
Bomber wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made
There's protocol and there's following like sheep because some people suddenly do things in certain ways.

Have Celtic (albeit in the past) ever lined up to cheer Rangers after a title success? Or is this something relatively "new"?
Not in the last 8 seasons I recall. :shock: My memory is faded after that. I am sure many Celtic supporters have acknowledged Rangers supporters with a friendly Glasgow Kiss.
You have 54 times to choose from, if it's such a protocol. Surely it's happened before.
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Bomber wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:do you shake hands when you meet people?
do you allow elderly people to cut the line or give up your seat for them
do you clap off an opposition injured player
down a narrow street, when the other driver stops to allow you through, do you acknowledge with a wave or a tilt of the head
do you open the door for a female
etc etc
Yes
Yes
Not often but usually only if person is seriously injured or stretchered off
Yes
Sometimes, although once was "told off" by said woman saying she could manage.

So how does this stand up against your theory so far?
3 down, 197 to go.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote: Memory faded for obvious reasons I suspect.

Serious question - when Scotland national team plays home games - do Celtic & Rangers supporters "mingle" as one?
Why would celtic supporters be at a scotland game?
I was hoping someone else would answer as I knew you'd say that (or similar). :lol:
Well in 1980 at the Euros I saw Millwall and West Ham supporters mingle at England games.

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ozzie owl wrote:
Well in 1980 at the Euros I saw Millwall and West Ham supporters mingle at England games.

You must have been disappointed, there was only 8 teams to support that year.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:I can keep going but I figured an intelligent person like you would get the point being made
There's protocol and there's following like sheep because some people suddenly do things in certain ways.

Have Celtic (albeit in the past) ever lined up to cheer Rangers after a title success? Or is this something relatively "new"?
Not in the last 8 seasons I recall. :shock: My memory is faded after that. I am sure many Celtic supporters have acknowledged Rangers supporters with a friendly Glasgow Kiss.
You have 54 times to choose from, if it's such a protocol. Surely it's happened before.[/quote]

Yes but that club went broke. Another club took over its name and stole its history. (ala West Adelaide Hellas). One would think the new club would have respect.

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eagleboy wrote:
Yes but that club went broke. Another club took over its name and stole its history. (ala West Adelaide Hellas). One would think the new club would have respect.
Then why have rangers paying the old club's debts?

If they're a new club, I assume celtic sent back the money they were sent for their debts from the old club?

Celtic had exactly the same change of company a few years before that, are they a new club?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
Yes but that club went broke. Another club took over its name and stole its history. (ala West Adelaide Hellas). One would think the new club would have respect.
Then why have rangers paying the old club's debts?

If they're a new club, I assume celtic sent back the money they were sent for their debts from the old club?

Celtic had exactly the same change of company a few years before that, are they a new club?
My memory doesn't go back that far but I'm sure they would have settled all their debts.

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eagleboy wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
Yes but that club went broke. Another club took over its name and stole its history. (ala West Adelaide Hellas). One would think the new club would have respect.
Then why have rangers paying the old club's debts?

If they're a new club, I assume celtic sent back the money they were sent for their debts from the old club?

Celtic had exactly the same change of company a few years before that, are they a new club?
My memory doesn't go back that far but I'm sure they would have settled all their debts.
As have Rangers, keep digging.
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Celtic win the Treble Treble . Even with all the injuries this year and manager leaving they are too good for Scottish football. The new boys the other side of town must be wondering what to do to catch up.

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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote: Memory faded for obvious reasons I suspect.

Serious question - when Scotland national team plays home games - do Celtic & Rangers supporters "mingle" as one?
Why would celtic supporters be at a scotland game?
I was hoping someone else would answer as I knew you'd say that (or similar). :lol:

someone else knows you as well mate. :lol:

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