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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:16 pm 
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Predicting that the Rangers v Celtic clash at Ibrox this afternoon (evening here) will be a classic encounter due to some major factors:

1. Rangers will be desperate to make a statement to themselves and their supporters that they can seriously challenge or indeed dent Celtic's quest for nine in a row.
2. Celtic are as good going forward as they are as bad in defence. Don't think they have the mentality to sit tight and try and nick a point. If Celtic don't defend well (and there is every chance that they won't) I could see Rangers scoring three or four to be honest. Big question is how many can Celtic score if their defence leaks goals?
3. Morelos' scoring record is abysmal v Celtic and it will be interesting to see if he can manage to break his duck. Much will depend if he starts on the bench behind Defoe in the pecking order and how much playing time he gets. That also depends on his discipline though I think Gerrard has probably got his head sorted by now (though I hope not).

From a Celtic point of view much will depend on the fitness of Edouard ands Ajer, if they struggle I think Celtic's chances of taking anything from the game could be bleak. I think Rangers will fancy their chances in this one as they will see it as an excellent chance to steal a march on their enemy so early on in the season.

Hoping that I am off the mark but think Rangers could edge it 3-2 in a thriller, though don't write Celtic off if they get their defence sorted out. To be fair Gerrard has improved Rangers and he must take credit for that whilst in the other corner Lennon claims that Celtic have also improved. I reckon that this is a bold statement, certainly more entertaining than last year but this doesn't guarantee any prizes come the end of the season.

To be brutally honest Celtic and Rangers have found their level in Europe in the Europa League and they are both a good bit short of competing in the Champions League but they should get use to it. Today is the bread and butter for both tribes and for those watching today simply sit back and enjoy the ride- it should be a belter of a game!


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Great win by Celtic, still the dominating force in the Scottish League!


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Michael wrote:
Great win by Celtic, still the dominating force in the Scottish League!


That's like saying you're the best looking bloke in the burns unit.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Terrible game, skills wise. So many fluffed passes, askew shots, even when under little or no pressure. SPL has gone backwards if these are the pinnacle of the game there.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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People are entitled to their opinions but I have seen a lot worse games in the EPL when teams stifle each other out in boring stalemates. Celtic defended very well (Forster didn't have a serious save to make) and controlled most of the match, to go there and win so comfortably surprised me. This was the acid test for Gerrard's team and they failed miserably. Yes it is only one game but Celtic made the statement when Rangers were expected to do so.
We can't all be glory hunters and jump on the Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City etc. joy ride bus and pretend to be true supporters.
Celtic and Rangers have their issues but their supporters will back their team to the hilt. Not to mention that they punch above their weight from time to time. To be fair to them and Scottish football the standard has dropped in many other countries as the so called big hitters are becoming ever more powerful and influence FIFA no end. IMO the CL should be just that but it is not as the greed and politics dictate that the so called lesser teams have to qualify the hard way.
I also accept the other side of the argument that Celtic should be expected to dominate domestically as they have more financial clout but it is hardly their fault. Celtic are victims of their own success as their best players will move on as they have always done. I remember as a boy when Dalglish signed for Liverpool in a 500,000 UK Pounds deal and the English media asked if he was good enough to fill Keegan's boots? Sir Kenny did his talking on the park and the rest is history. The Scottish game has always been scoffed at down south (England) and the Scots know themselves that we often leave ourselves open to ridicule. We know that our game and league lacks the quality of the EPL but when these teams are making and spending absolute fortunes this is hardly surprising.
Looking forward to Tierney getting match fit for Arsenal and showing that Scotland is still capable of producing quality players. The young lad is a gun and I hope he does himself justice.


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Bomber wrote:
Terrible game, skills wise. So many fluffed passes, askew shots, even when under little or no pressure. SPL has gone backwards if these are the pinnacle of the game there.


not really surprising though is it, one club has to sell their best players off every season to the premier league and the other club is 7 years old with an inexperienced manager at the helm. The only measurement of how good these teams are is when they play in Europe, Celtic beat the champions of Sweden 6-1 on aggregate and Rangers beat Legia Warsaw (2nd place in Poland). We will find out over the next couple of months how far off/ or how close they are compared to teams from Portugal,Italy etc..


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Bomber wrote:
Terrible game, skills wise. So many fluffed passes, askew shots, even when under little or no pressure. SPL has gone backwards if these are the pinnacle of the game there.


not really surprising though is it, one club has to sell their best players off every season to the premier league and the other club is 7 years old with an inexperienced manager at the helm. The only measurement of how good these teams are is when they play in Europe, Celtic beat the champions of Sweden 6-1 on aggregate and Rangers beat Legia Warsaw (2nd place in Poland). We will find out over the next couple of months how far off/ or how close they are compared to teams from Portugal,Italy etc..



Which team is 7 years old?

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Pooraka Sałt wrote:
Sevco Rangers


checked the league, no such team.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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People are entitled to their opinions but I have seen a lot worse games in the EPL when teams stifle each other out in boring stalemates. Celtic defended very well (Forster didn't have a serious save to make) and controlled most of the match, to go there and win so comfortably surprised me. This was the acid test for Gerrard's team and they failed miserably. Yes it is only one game but Celtic made the statement when Rangers were expected to do so.
We can't all be glory hunters and jump on the Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City etc. joy ride bus and pretend to be true supporters.
Celtic and Rangers have their issues but their supporters will back their team to the hilt. Not to mention that they punch above their weight from time to time. To be fair to them and Scottish football the standard has dropped in many other countries as the so called big hitters are becoming ever more powerful and influence FIFA no end. IMO the CL should be just that but it is not as the greed and politics dictate that the so called lesser teams have to qualify the hard way.
I also accept the other side of the argument that Celtic should be expected to dominate domestically as they have more financial clout but it is hardly their fault. Celtic are victims of their own success as their best players will move on as they have always done. I remember as a boy when Dalglish signed for Liverpool in a 500,000 UK Pounds deal and the English media asked if he was good enough to fill Keegan's boots? Sir Kenny did his talking on the park and the rest is history. The Scottish game has always been scoffed at down south (England) and the Scots know themselves that we often leave ourselves open to ridicule. We know that our game and league lacks the quality of the EPL but when these teams are making and spending absolute fortunes this is hardly surprising.
Looking forward to Tierney getting match fit for Arsenal and showing that Scotland is still capable of producing quality players. The young lad is a gun and I hope he does himself justice.



well said. good article. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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theorakle wrote:
thebeautifulgame wrote:
People are entitled to their opinions but I have seen a lot worse games in the EPL when teams stifle each other out in boring stalemates. Celtic defended very well (Forster didn't have a serious save to make) and controlled most of the match, to go there and win so comfortably surprised me. This was the acid test for Gerrard's team and they failed miserably. Yes it is only one game but Celtic made the statement when Rangers were expected to do so.
We can't all be glory hunters and jump on the Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City etc. joy ride bus and pretend to be true supporters.
Celtic and Rangers have their issues but their supporters will back their team to the hilt. Not to mention that they punch above their weight from time to time. To be fair to them and Scottish football the standard has dropped in many other countries as the so called big hitters are becoming ever more powerful and influence FIFA no end. IMO the CL should be just that but it is not as the greed and politics dictate that the so called lesser teams have to qualify the hard way.
I also accept the other side of the argument that Celtic should be expected to dominate domestically as they have more financial clout but it is hardly their fault. Celtic are victims of their own success as their best players will move on as they have always done. I remember as a boy when Dalglish signed for Liverpool in a 500,000 UK Pounds deal and the English media asked if he was good enough to fill Keegan's boots? Sir Kenny did his talking on the park and the rest is history. The Scottish game has always been scoffed at down south (England) and the Scots know themselves that we often leave ourselves open to ridicule. We know that our game and league lacks the quality of the EPL but when these teams are making and spending absolute fortunes this is hardly surprising.
Looking forward to Tierney getting match fit for Arsenal and showing that Scotland is still capable of producing quality players. The young lad is a gun and I hope he does himself justice.



well said. good article. :)


Lacks the quality of the EPL - That's an understatement.

League One standard at best, some of the teams would struggle in the A League.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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some of the teams would struggle in the A League.


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Lacks the quality of the EPL - That's an understatement.

League One standard at best, some of the teams would struggle in the A League.[/quote]

I think you're just looking to slag off Scottish football at every given moment which is fair enough considering some embarrassing results, but let's recall the last time English and Scottish clubs played each other over the past two years.

Rangers 5-0 Oxford
Hibs 1 v 3 Newcastle
Rangers 1 v 1 Blackburn
Rangers 1 v 0 Derby
Burnley 3 V 1 Aberdeen (A.E.T)
Aberdeen 1 V 1 Burnley
Hibs 2 V Sunderland 2
St Johnstone 3-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 0-5 Celtic reserves

Outside the top 3 clubs (Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers) the quality is league 1 level mixed with a few higher level players ( John McGinn as a recent example). I question your comment about some spfl struggling in the a-league when 2nd bottom Hearts have a-league guys like Garruccio and Bozanic who can hardly get game time, yet were rated somewhat highly over here. Also didn't Ryan McGowan move to the champions of Australia from a relegated Dundee side ? Not to forget Scott McDonald playing league 1 in Scotland to signing for the new a-league club (he just scored tonight), not to mention Ross McCormack who was made to look like Rooney in the a-league. I could continue with the examples but will leave for now :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Lacks the quality of the EPL - That's an understatement.

League One standard at best, some of the teams would struggle in the A League.


I think you're just looking to slag off Scottish football at every given moment which is fair enough considering some embarrassing results, but let's recall the last time English and Scottish clubs played each other over the past two years.

Rangers 5-0 Oxford
Hibs 1 v 3 Newcastle
Rangers 1 v 1 Blackburn
Rangers 1 v 0 Derby
Burnley 3 V 1 Aberdeen (A.E.T)
Aberdeen 1 V 1 Burnley
Hibs 2 V Sunderland 2
St Johnstone 3-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 0-5 Celtic reserves

Outside the top 3 clubs (Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers) the quality is league 1 level mixed with a few higher level players ( John McGinn as a recent example). I question your comment about some spfl struggling in the a-league when 2nd bottom Hearts have a-league guys like Garruccio and Bozanic who can hardly get game time, yet were rated somewhat highly over here. Also didn't Ryan McGowan move to the champions of Australia from a relegated Dundee side ? Not to forget Scott McDonald playing league 1 in Scotland to signing for the new a-league club (he just scored tonight), not to mention Ross McCormack who was made to look like Rooney in the a-league. I could continue with the examples but will leave for now :lol:[/quote]

You're stretching it putting friendlies in there especially against us as we were on a massive slide. If its playing for the chocolates then it over 10 years since a Scottish team beat an English team in European comps.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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Bradmufc1975 wrote:
I think you're just looking to slag off Scottish football at every given moment which is fair enough considering some embarrassing results, but let's recall the last time English and Scottish clubs played each other over the past two years.

Rangers 5-0 Oxford
Hibs 1 v 3 Newcastle
Rangers 1 v 1 Blackburn
Rangers 1 v 0 Derby
Burnley 3 V 1 Aberdeen (A.E.T)
Aberdeen 1 V 1 Burnley
Hibs 2 V Sunderland 2
St Johnstone 3-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 0-5 Celtic reserves

Outside the top 3 clubs (Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers) the quality is league 1 level mixed with a few higher level players ( John McGinn as a recent example). I question your comment about some spfl struggling in the a-league when 2nd bottom Hearts have a-league guys like Garruccio and Bozanic who can hardly get game time, yet were rated somewhat highly over here. Also didn't Ryan McGowan move to the champions of Australia from a relegated Dundee side ? Not to forget Scott McDonald playing league 1 in Scotland to signing for the new a-league club (he just scored tonight), not to mention Ross McCormack who was made to look like Rooney in the a-league. I could continue with the examples but will leave for now :lol:



are you actually.using friendlies to make a point? 8)

Scott McDonald - a wage thief in England for Millwall and a top scorer in SPL. Moving to A league, don't see what point that makes.

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 Post subject: Re: Rangers v Celtic
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You're stretching it putting friendlies in there especially against us as we were on a massive slide. If its playing for the chocolates then it over 10 years since a Scottish team beat an English team in European comps.[/quote]

How else are you meant to compare the leagues then? Can only go on games played against each other. Also it's a stretch saying over 10 years when there has only been 6 meetings between English and Scottish clubs competitively in the past 10 years. The two most recent games, Celtic drew twice with the English champions and Aberdeen (3rd in the league at the time) got beat after extra time against Burnley (7th in the prem).


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Bradmufc1975 wrote:
You're stretching it putting friendlies in there especially against us as we were on a massive slide. If its playing for the chocolates then it over 10 years since a Scottish team beat an English team in European comps.


How else are you meant to compare the leagues then? Can only go on games played against each other. Also it's a stretch saying over 10 years when there has only been 6 meetings between English and Scottish clubs competitively in the past 10 years. The two most recent games, Celtic drew twice with the English champions and Aberdeen (3rd in the league at the time) got beat after extra time against Burnley (7th in the prem).[/quote]

A least 14 games since the last win against English sides, which was Celtic v Man Utd in 2007 so that stretches out to 12yrs.

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Scott McDonald - a wage thief in England for Millwall and a top scorer in SPL. Moving to A league, don't see what point that makes.[/quote]

I'm sure he will remember his last minute winner against AC Milan who were the champions of Europe the season before, rather than a failed stint at Millwall. My point being that I don't think most clubs in the top flight of Scotland would be 'struggling' in the a-league, when the likes of a 36 year old McDonald is coming from the 2nd division straight into the a-league or again Ryan McGowan going to the Australian champions from a relegated Dundee side. To your defence, you did say 'some teams', Hamilton, St Johnstone and St Mirren would be down there.

On another note, this sums up the Australia's captain time in the league :lol:
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Bradmufc1975 wrote:
You're stretching it putting friendlies in there especially against us as we were on a massive slide. If its playing for the chocolates then it over 10 years since a Scottish team beat an English team in European comps.


How else are you meant to compare the leagues then? Can only go on games played against each other. Also it's a stretch saying over 10 years when there has only been 6 meetings between English and Scottish clubs competitively in the past 10 years. The two most recent games, Celtic drew twice with the English champions and Aberdeen (3rd in the league at the time) got beat after extra time against Burnley (7th in the prem).


A least 14 games since the last win against English sides, which was Celtic v Man Utd in 2007 so that stretches out to 12yrs.[/quote]

Remember it very well! 14 competitive games played in the last 12 years; 7 draws 7 losses, considering the financial differences it really isn't that bad. I'm not trying to say the SPFL is some amazing league, however I would say in terms of quality it is a mixture of mid- table championship sides and some lower championship/ high league 1 sides. Money has completely ruined any sort of level playing field for smaller professional leagues, how Man City are allowed to stock pile youth players for the sole purpose of making money is crazy- so much for Financial Fair Play?!

https://www.france24.com/en/20181103-ue ... rkozy-fifa

Until UEFA implement a proper financial fair play code, the smaller league clubs are going to keep on getting punished while the rich clubs will get richer, but that won't fill up the FIFA presidents pocket will it?


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