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Brexit Impact on English football

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Looks like FA are trying broker a deal with the government in regards to overseas players and Brexit. IMO should football not be treated any different to other industries in regards to foreign workers.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fa-repo ... A-65MTSjug

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Reducing the number of foreign players allowed per club from 17 to 12 or 13 is a good move,gives local guys a go,plus a lot of imports are on the books but are given out to other clubs ,some never even playing for the club they signed for.

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ozzie owl wrote:Looks like FA are trying broker a deal with the government in regards to overseas players and Brexit. IMO should football not be treated any different to other industries in regards to foreign workers.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/fa-repo ... A-65MTSjug
No, it should not be any different.
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No surprise here as EPL sides react to the proposal to reduce number of overseas players.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rexit.html

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ozzie owl wrote:EPL clubs continue the fight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ayers.html
As they should, they're private enterprises, not feeder clubs for the national team.

If the FA really wanted to do something useful, they should cap the number of players of age 16 and over that a club can have to a predetermined limit. That would stop the richer clubs treating players like commodities to be traded, sweeping up all the young talent to stop competitors having them and then not playing them or loaning them abroad. Clubs like BigClub FC (in Fulham but not Fulham FC) would have about 60-70 on their books whereas they really only need perhaps 40. The other 20 or more could be getting valuable playing experience at other teams, rather than disappearing until BigClub FC decide they're not good enough in three or four years time, by which time the player is around 20 and has hardly played.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:EPL clubs continue the fight.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ayers.html
As they should, they're private enterprises, not feeder clubs for the national team.

If the FA really wanted to do something useful, they should cap the number of players of age 16 and over that a club can have to a predetermined limit. That would stop the richer clubs treating players like commodities to be traded, sweeping up all the young talent to stop competitors having them and then not playing them or loaning them abroad. Clubs like BigClub FC (in Fulham but not Fulham FC) would have about 60-70 on their books whereas they really only need perhaps 40. The other 20 or more could be getting valuable playing experience at other teams, rather than disappearing until BigClub FC decide they're not good enough in three or four years time, by which time the player is around 20 and has hardly played.
They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.

Personally, I’d like maximum of 2 non English players in any side but that would go against employment law and no hope of getting up under British Law.
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God is an Englishman wrote:They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.
I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.
I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.
I agree but post Brexit they should not be given any concessions just because they are football clubs.

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Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.
I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.
And they should be subject to the same rules after Brexit as well.
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I honestly don't think Brexit will get up unfortunately. all this has proved that the will of ordinary people mean nothing and never has. :roll:

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Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.

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ozzie owl wrote:Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.
Statistics can be wildly inaccurate though. Kane, Alli, Winks, Dier, Trippier, Rose, who are more or less first choices for Spurs, have all been injured for decent chunks of the season and I'm sure other clubs in the top six are the same, even though they don't have quite the same representation.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Southgate worried about the continual slide in starting time for English players in the EPL , this season it dropped to 30% and as low as 19% for the top six. With the cashed up EPL clubs getting richer unless Brexit happens it will only get worse.
Statistics can be wildly inaccurate though. Kane, Alli, Winks, Dier, Trippier, Rose, who are more or less first choices for Spurs, have all been injured for decent chunks of the season and I'm sure other clubs in the top six are the same, even though they don't have quite the same representation.
Spurs are the best of the top six , however the trend is downward. I think what you will see is more young English repeat what Sancho did and head to Europe to get game time.

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The way Teresa May is being blocked at every stage of Brexit negotiations, it is unlikely that GB will ever actually leave the EU, as the mood of the people seems to be against it.

The next election will be entirely about this one issue, leaving or not.
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Old Master wrote:The way Teresa May is being blocked at every stage of Brexit negotiations, it is unlikely that GB will ever actually leave the EU, as the mood of the people seems to be against it.

The next election will be entirely about this one issue, leaving or not.
Mood of the people are against it? Where are you getting that from?

Brexit party are leading the polls. Today's elections I think will show the true mood of the country.

Of course May is being blocked, she's a remainer trying to deliver a remain proposal.
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how hard is it i ask??

did the country not vote and decide to leave the EU??

get on with it then or STFU already

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Rookie wrote:how hard is it i ask??

did the country not vote and decide to leave the EU??

get on with it then or STFU already

all this just proves that the peasants never get what they want. the elete didnt want it and it wont bloody happen. the yankee elete didnt want trump either. same diff,sort of. :roll:

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Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:They should be subject to the same immigration and employment laws as any other business.
I think they are already, but whilst we're still a member of the EU, they are allowed as many European players as they want under the freedom of movement laws.
So once Brexit happens footballers should be treated the same as say tradie on a building site. Why should ' special deals be done for football?

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I think Brexit will not affect British Football.
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europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants

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Davinci Code wrote:europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants
It will have nothing to do with the EU.
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Davinci Code wrote:europe needs england so they will role over and give the biggest league what ever it wants
Well with Brexit now looking as a reality be interesting to see what restrictions for overseas are placed on English clubs .

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First shots fired regarding English football post Brexit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -plan.html

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46 hours to go :-)
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