He made a few. How many did Ryan have to make? And refer to previous post about the weight of your opinion.God is an Englishman wrote:How many saves did Schmeichel have to make?Bomber wrote:You do realise that if the penalty wasn't given, in the chaos of all possibilities, Australia could have actually won the game as the rest of the match would have changed. Based on the 90 mins, Oz were unlucky not to win. And your (GIAE) opinion doesn't hold much weight as Australia could win 8-0 and you'd find something "lucky" about it.
I'd say australia were lucky to come away with a point, they only earnt it through a dodgy penalty.
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you kidding? even the Australian commentators and pundits were saying it shouldn't have been a penalty. The France one was debatable, last nights just wasn't a penalty.Bomber wrote:Handball's "soft".magnet wrote:Australia will go far in this tournament - providing they continue to be awarded soft penaltiesBomber wrote:Well that's very unprofessional of them then. Silly thing is there was a bigger claim for a penalty not considered later on, but no-one seems to give a rats about shirt pulling any more which is madness in itself.
Last night was debatable, whether it was a penalty to the letter of the law, but so was the French one against. Swings and roundabouts my friend, and anyone who thinks Denmark was unlucky last night either is so biased against Australia or just doesn't know much about football.
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If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
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The only debate was in the refs head. Maybe he's schizoBomber wrote:If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
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I couldn't see much difference between the France penalty and the Denmark penalty decision. Even the penalty was taken the same way and the result was the same GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAL to the Socceroos.
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Anything can be debatable if people want to debate. Some people debate the world being flat. That being a handball is akin to that "debate".Bomber wrote:If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
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Ask for his FIFA medical report Magnet then you will be sure.magnet wrote:The only debate was in the refs head. Maybe he's schizoBomber wrote:If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
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Has a team ever qualified from the group stages without scoring a goal in open play?
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It hit his hand in the penalty box - that in itself lends some credence to interpretation of the decision.God is an Englishman wrote:Anything can be debatable if people want to debate. Some people debate the world being flat. That being a handball is akin to that "debate".Bomber wrote:If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
And this happened in the first half right? Denmark, if good enough, would have come out an won it in the second half - but were under the pump most of the time.
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I disagree, I think the world is round.Bomber wrote:It hit his hand in the penalty box - that in itself lends some credence to interpretation of the decision.God is an Englishman wrote:Anything can be debatable if people want to debate. Some people debate the world being flat. That being a handball is akin to that "debate".Bomber wrote:If its not debatable, then there would have been no hand contact. If its not debatable, the ref (who watched it on VAR) wouldn't have given it. You understand what the term "debatable" means don't you?
And this happened in the first half right? Denmark, if good enough, would have come out an won it in the second half - but were under the pump most of the time.
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I see adherence to reality is not yours.Arfa Fuxake wrote:I see maths is not your strong point.zzz wrote:so France win its bye bye Peru and Socceroos
France and Denmark will draw, unless Peru wrap up the final game early.
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They didn't earn it nor did they earn the goal in the other game. Both unearned penalties.God is an Englishman wrote:How many saves did Schmeichel have to make?Bomber wrote:You do realise that if the penalty wasn't given, in the chaos of all possibilities, Australia could have actually won the game as the rest of the match would have changed. Based on the 90 mins, Oz were unlucky not to win. And your (GIAE) opinion doesn't hold much weight as Australia could win 8-0 and you'd find something "lucky" about it.
I'd say australia were lucky to come away with a point, they only earnt it through a dodgy penalty.
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Attempts on goal
Australia = 14
Denmark = 10
corners
Australia = 5
Denmark = 3
Possession (as an indicator to support the above)
Australia =52
Denmark = 48
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Australia = 14
Denmark = 10
corners
Australia = 5
Denmark = 3
Possession (as an indicator to support the above)
Australia =52
Denmark = 48
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Since when is it in the LOTG that you have to "earn" a pen? Sloppiness or ill-discipline from opposition irrelevant now? Jedinak should have belted both pens over the bar to keep all the idiots happy.zzz wrote:They didn't earn it nor did they earn the goal in the other game. Both unearned penalties.God is an Englishman wrote:How many saves did Schmeichel have to make?Bomber wrote:You do realise that if the penalty wasn't given, in the chaos of all possibilities, Australia could have actually won the game as the rest of the match would have changed. Based on the 90 mins, Oz were unlucky not to win. And your (GIAE) opinion doesn't hold much weight as Australia could win 8-0 and you'd find something "lucky" about it.
I'd say australia were lucky to come away with a point, they only earnt it through a dodgy penalty.
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4 shots on target for each team, poorMegaBonus wrote:Attempts on goal
Australia = 14
Denmark = 10
corners
Australia = 5
Denmark = 3
Possession (as an indicator to support the above)
Australia =52
Denmark = 48
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I was correcting "God is an Englishman" mistake where he said they 'earnt' a penalty.Bomber wrote:Since when is it in the LOTG that you have to "earn" a pen? Sloppiness or ill-discipline from opposition irrelevant now? Jedinak should have belted both pens over the bar to keep all the idiots happy.zzz wrote:They didn't earn it nor did they earn the goal in the other game. Both unearned penalties.God is an Englishman wrote:
How many saves did Schmeichel have to make?
I'd say australia were lucky to come away with a point, they only earnt it through a dodgy penalty.
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Why mention his whole family? And their ranking.....?swannsong wrote:zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: I was correcting "God is an Englishman" mistake where he said they 'earnt' a penalty.
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For teams that have played two games so far only three have averaging more than four shots on target per game. Are they all poor as well?magnet wrote:4 shots on target for each team, poorMegaBonus wrote:Attempts on goal
Australia = 14
Denmark = 10
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Denmark = 3
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God is an Englishman wrote:But I didn't say thatzzz wrote:I was correcting "God is an Englishman" mistake where he said they 'earnt' a penalty.
An argument can be made where you can earn a dodgy penalty. eg a defense is opened up and a 50-50 foul is awarded as a result of a physical tackle. You could say it was earned because the attack caused the action.God is an Englishman wrote: How many saves did Schmeichel have to make?
I'd say australia were lucky to come away with a point, they only earnt it through a dodgy penalty.
In this case it was one of many hopeful Socceroos crosses that was intercepted and happened to bounce onto the hand.
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There you go, no argument from me, his arm was up for balance long before the ball hit it. But that isn't a penalty under the LOTG, even allowing for the ridiculously loose interpretation the refs work with. You would have to assume some refs have never jumped to head a ball, or if they have they resemble Irish dancers.Bomber wrote:It hit his hand in the penalty box...
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Who said the games were poor because of a small amount of shots?ozzie owl wrote:For teams that have played two games so far only three have averaging more than four shots on target per game. Are they all poor as well?magnet wrote:4 shots on target for each team, poorMegaBonus wrote:Attempts on goal
Australia = 14
Denmark = 10
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Australia = 5
Denmark = 3
Possession (as an indicator to support the above)
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Australia never looked like scoring. It was much like the Saudi Arabia v Uruguay game. Uruguay let them have the ball because they knew they couldn't do anything with it.Nice One Cyril wrote:There you go, no argument from me, his arm was up for balance long before the ball hit it. But that isn't a penalty under the LOTG, even allowing for the ridiculously loose interpretation the refs work with. You would have to assume some refs have never jumped to head a ball, or if they have they resemble Irish dancers.Bomber wrote:It hit his hand in the penalty box...
However, that aside, I thought Australia were good value for a point.
Without the VAR wrong penalty decision, it would've been a comfortable victory for Denmark. As it was they were satisfied with the point.
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I wouldn't say a comfortable victory but can only think of one decent chance the cons had to score (Aside from when the ref helped them).zzz wrote:Australia never looked like scoring. It was much like the Saudi Arabia v Uruguay game. Uruguay let them have the ball because they knew they couldn't do anything with it.Nice One Cyril wrote:There you go, no argument from me, his arm was up for balance long before the ball hit it. But that isn't a penalty under the LOTG, even allowing for the ridiculously loose interpretation the refs work with. You would have to assume some refs have never jumped to head a ball, or if they have they resemble Irish dancers.Bomber wrote:It hit his hand in the penalty box...
However, that aside, I thought Australia were good value for a point.
Without the VAR wrong penalty decision, it would've been a comfortable victory for Denmark. As it was they were satisfied with the point.
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Sad part is many can't admit that it was a decent effort from a bunch of more or less second graders. You don't have to like the team, but those who loathe them are too obvious with their boring nit-picking about how "bad and lucky" they were. Bottom line, very competitive against two high ranked nations so far, so punching above our weight IMO.Nice One Cyril wrote: However, that aside, I thought Australia were good value for a point.
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I would agree. For a poor footballing team it was quite an industrious effort, especially if your industry is waste disposal.Bomber wrote:Sad part is many can't admit that it was a decent effort from a bunch of more or less second graders. You don't have to like the team, but those who loathe them are too obvious with their boring nit-picking about how "bad and lucky" they were. Bottom line, very competitive against two high ranked nations so far, so punching above our weight IMO.Nice One Cyril wrote: However, that aside, I thought Australia were good value for a point.
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Yes, so comfortable that they were backpedalling most of the second half and looked more relieved at the final whistle than us.zzz wrote: Without the VAR wrong penalty decision, it would've been a comfortable victory for Denmark
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Still pissed that Italy didn't make it I see. Do you spit on homeless people for kicks?zzz wrote:I would agree. For a poor footballing team it was quite an industrious effort, especially if your industry is waste disposal.Bomber wrote:Sad part is many can't admit that it was a decent effort from a bunch of more or less second graders. You don't have to like the team, but those who loathe them are too obvious with their boring nit-picking about how "bad and lucky" they were. Bottom line, very competitive against two high ranked nations so far, so punching above our weight IMO.Nice One Cyril wrote: However, that aside, I thought Australia were good value for a point.
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Of course they looked more relieved. They got a result they wanted whereas the Socceroos are effectively out of the tournament.Bomber wrote:Yes, so comfortable that they were backpedalling most of the second half and looked more relieved at the final whistle than us.zzz wrote: Without the VAR wrong penalty decision, it would've been a comfortable victory for Denmark