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ozzie owl wrote:Enbgland voted for Brexit can't have one rule for football and another for everyone else.
Wouldn’t they simply apply the same rules they apply to other foreigner players like Africans & Australians. Must be over 18 and have played X amount of internationals. (X) dependent on fifa ranking. We’d still get all the good players, just better placed to filter out the riff raff
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To be fair he is an Arsenal supporter and that tie would be better to watch than the usual p1ss weak stuff he would have to watch.
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N5 1BH wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Enbgland voted for Brexit can't have one rule for football and another for everyone else.
Wouldn’t they simply apply the same rules they apply to other foreigner players like Africans & Australians. Must be over 18 and have played X amount of internationals. (X) dependent on fifa ranking. We’d still get all the good players, just better placed to filter out the riff raff
Have a look at this article. The landscape will change but to what extent no one knows.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 88786.html

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ozzie owl wrote:
N5 1BH wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Enbgland voted for Brexit can't have one rule for football and another for everyone else.
Wouldn’t they simply apply the same rules they apply to other foreigner players like Africans & Australians. Must be over 18 and have played X amount of internationals. (X) dependent on fifa ranking. We’d still get all the good players, just better placed to filter out the riff raff
Have a look at this article. The landscape will change but to what extent no one knows.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 88786.html
its a year on from there. In another year there could be plans for another referendum!

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:
Having a cap on overseas players per side to say 4 per match day squad would help as well. Sadly the EU wont allow that to change. One can hope that once Brexit is rolled out the English clubs will be bound by the same labour laws as all other businesses.
so you want English clubs to suffer? That will only help other leagues.
So if English club wins the Champions League with no Englishman how does that help English football?

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ozzie owl wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:
Having a cap on overseas players per side to say 4 per match day squad would help as well. Sadly the EU wont allow that to change. One can hope that once Brexit is rolled out the English clubs will be bound by the same labour laws as all other businesses.
so you want English clubs to suffer? That will only help other leagues.
So if English club wins the Champions League with no Englishman how does that help English football?
Liverpool won the Double in 1986, the FA cup winning team had no English players. Nobody was complaining then.

The issue is that lower league teams charge too much for English players. You can buy equivalent standard for far less in Europe and beyond.

I like the make up of the current Liverpool squad. Mainly British, with a bit of European, S American and African influence. The variety is superb.

Off the top of my head

Goalkeepers 2 European, 1 British
Fullbacks 1 European 4 British
Centre Backs, One African, three European
Midfield 2 European 4 British
Forwards 1 S American, 2 African, 3 British

If all clubs had the same mix, what is the real problem?

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Majority of the clubs dont have that mix and dont care if they do.

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ozzie owl wrote:If Brexit happens why should football get preferential treatment?
Nothing preferential, it would be like many other things with exceptions. preferential is when you get a better deal, each sport is unique.

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ozzie owl wrote:Majority of the clubs dont have that mix and dont care if they do.
That's their choice. I am all for a free market. Australia's salary cap and rules and regulations is holding the game up here IMO.

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:If Brexit happens why should football get preferential treatment?
Nothing preferential, it would be like many other things with exceptions. preferential is when you get a better deal, each sport is unique.
Its not a free market anyway , you have FFP , which prevents some one else doing a Man City or Chelsea.

If a billionaire buys a Championship side he can't guy and run massive losses like they did in the early days, to buy your way to the top.

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ozzie owl wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:If Brexit happens why should football get preferential treatment?
Nothing preferential, it would be like many other things with exceptions. preferential is when you get a better deal, each sport is unique.
Its not a free market anyway , you have FFP , which prevents some one else doing a Man City or Chelsea.

If a billionaire buys a Championship side he can't guy and run massive losses like they did in the early days, to buy your way to the top.
the FFP is in place in essence but clubs bypass that, you know that!

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Nicky Tanner wrote:
Liverpool won the Double in 1986, the FA cup winning team had no English players. Nobody was complaining then.

The issue is that lower league teams charge too much for English players. You can buy equivalent standard for far less in Europe and beyond.

I like the make up of the current Liverpool squad. Mainly British, with a bit of European, S American and African influence. The variety is superb.

Off the top of my head

Goalkeepers 2 European, 1 British
Fullbacks 1 European 4 British
Centre Backs, One African, three European
Midfield 2 European 4 British
Forwards 1 S American, 2 African, 3 British

If all clubs had the same mix, what is the real problem?
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Nicky Tanner wrote:
Liverpool won the Double in 1986, the FA cup winning team had no English players. Nobody was complaining then.

The issue is that lower league teams charge too much for English players. You can buy equivalent standard for far less in Europe and beyond.

I like the make up of the current Liverpool squad. Mainly British, with a bit of European, S American and African influence. The variety is superb.

Off the top of my head

Goalkeepers 2 European, 1 British
Fullbacks 1 European 4 British
Centre Backs, One African, three European
Midfield 2 European 4 British
Forwards 1 S American, 2 African, 3 British

If all clubs had the same mix, what is the real problem?
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
Although that's not relevant for work permits etc in sport - and you know this. but out of those 2 are Welsh who don't play (Woodburn and Ward) and one Scottish, who does (Robertson)

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Majority of the clubs dont have that mix and dont care if they do.
That's their choice. I am all for a free market. Australia's salary cap and rules and regulations is holding the game up here IMO.
So you like the fact that about only about 30% of EPL players are eligible to play for England?

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ozzie owl wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:Majority of the clubs dont have that mix and dont care if they do.
That's their choice. I am all for a free market. Australia's salary cap and rules and regulations is holding the game up here IMO.
So you like the fact that about only about 30% of EPL players are eligible to play for England?
If they are the best English players what's the issue? Are you saying that you want rubbish players to play for England?
I don't get what you are getting at, the best English players play for England, and they are nearly always in the Premier League - the world's most popular and possibly best league.

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
Although that's not relevant for work permits etc in sport - and you know this. but out of those 2 are Welsh who don't play (Woodburn and Ward) and one Scottish, who does (Robertson)
How the shiraz is woodburn welsh?? I think you're under the misapprehension that you have to actually be from a home country to play for them

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N5 1BH wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
Although that's not relevant for work permits etc in sport - and you know this. but out of those 2 are Welsh who don't play (Woodburn and Ward) and one Scottish, who does (Robertson)
How the shiraz is woodburn welsh?? I think you're under the misapprehension that you have to actually be from a home country to play for them
i am using squad nationalities, not birthplaces.

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
N5 1BH wrote:
How the shiraz is woodburn welsh?? I think you're under the misapprehension that you have to actually be from a home country to play for them
i am using squad nationalities, not birthplaces.
Or his parents'

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Is Mr Rush still looking after all the liverpool kids ?

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N5 1BH wrote:Is Mr Rush still looking after all the liverpool kids ?
He is involved with Wales and not LFC i believe.

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N5 1BH wrote:
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
Although that's not relevant for work permits etc in sport - and you know this. but out of those 2 are Welsh who don't play (Woodburn and Ward) and one Scottish, who does (Robertson)
How the shiraz is woodburn welsh?? I think you're under the misapprehension that you have to actually be from a home country to play for them
If he plays for wakes, he's Welsh and should shiraz off and play for TNS.
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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Nicky Tanner wrote:
Liverpool won the Double in 1986, the FA cup winning team had no English players. Nobody was complaining then.

The issue is that lower league teams charge too much for English players. You can buy equivalent standard for far less in Europe and beyond.

I like the make up of the current Liverpool squad. Mainly British, with a bit of European, S American and African influence. The variety is superb.

Off the top of my head

Goalkeepers 2 European, 1 British
Fullbacks 1 European 4 British
Centre Backs, One African, three European
Midfield 2 European 4 British
Forwards 1 S American, 2 African, 3 British

If all clubs had the same mix, what is the real problem?
Who cares if they're British. If they're not English, they're foreign.
Although that's not relevant for work permits etc in sport - and you know this. but out of those 2 are Welsh who don't play (Woodburn and Ward) and one Scottish, who does (Robertson)
The point is they are in the English league which should be for English players.

If they're Welsh- TNS

Scottish - Aberdeen

Irish - celtic
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A good job you have no say in the running of sport anywhere. With you logic you and your son should have never kicked a ball in an Australian league. And your daughter not played netball. I believe they are both English.

Anyway, your hero KP would have never played for England along with many other players to represent us.

You should know by now to not fish with me around :wink:

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Whilst I completely understand what he means, I think this is really sad from a professional sportsman that coming 2nd, 3rd or 4th is celebrated more than actually winning something.
Hugo Lloris wrote:Qualifying for the Champions League next season "means more than a trophy" after Spurs beat Newcastle at Wembley to confirm their top-four place.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:Whilst I completely understand what he means, I think this is really sad from a professional sportsman that coming 2nd, 3rd or 4th is celebrated more than actually winning something.
Hugo Lloris wrote:Qualifying for the Champions League next season "means more than a trophy" after Spurs beat Newcastle at Wembley to confirm their top-four place.
I almost agree with you.
I don’t understand what he means though!

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Nicky_Tanner wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:Whilst I completely understand what he means, I think this is really sad from a professional sportsman that coming 2nd, 3rd or 4th is celebrated more than actually winning something.
Hugo Lloris wrote:Qualifying for the Champions League next season "means more than a trophy" after Spurs beat Newcastle at Wembley to confirm their top-four place.
I almost agree with you.
I don’t understand what he means though!

See you tomorrow night?
Are you talking about Strikers v Beagles? Or did you mean Saturday evening?

As for Lloris, I think he's thinking of the money, not the glory. That's Levy's job IMO.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
Are you talking about Strikers v Beagles? Or did you mean Saturday evening?

As for Lloris, I think he's thinking of the money, not the glory. That's Levy's job IMO.
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When is the Uefa League final?
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Liverpool to win 3-1 :idea:
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Bomber wrote:Liverpool to win 3-1 :idea:
Hopefully. I couldn't support Chelsea or Arsenal, not that they look like making the CL anytime soon :wink: , but other than them I'd always rather an English team wins it.
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