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No Netherlands and no Italy

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Yet Peru or NZ and australia or Honduras will make it though.


I know which two teams from that 6, I'd rather watch in a world cup.
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mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
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MegaBonus wrote:mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
The world cup should have the best teams in the world in it, not teams just making up the numbers.

Pedantic hat on, holland might make the next world cup but I'd think catalonia have more of a chance.
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MegaBonus wrote:mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
England getting beat by Australia, now you are being stupid

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Pie and Bovril wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
England getting beat by Australia, now you are being stupid
I await someone saying about it happening in a friendly once :lol:
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Pie and Bovril

England getting beat by Australia, now you are being stupid

I think the same was said about the following....

Iceland
United States 1-0 England -- 1950 World Cup
Norway 2-1 England -- 1982 World Cup qualifier
etc etc


but its not just about England....Italy lost to North Korea....Denmark and Greece winning European Championships etc etc
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Denmark were always a good side. Underdog story because of the way it happened but it was an 8 team tournament. Hardly mind blowing that they would win.
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Pray for Grosso.

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Slinky_Pete wrote:Pray for Grosso.
:lol:

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MegaBonus wrote: Norway 2-1 England -- 1982 World Cup qualifier
It was 2-0 for usa '94

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Point of order, Moderators/Admin. Please make God Isn’t An Englishman move his Post Subject to the correct World Football forum.

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Con M wrote:Point of order, Moderators/Admin. Please make God Isn’t An Englishman move his Post Subject to the correct World Football forum.
You are 100% correct.

However, it is not possible for moderators to make me move it.
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Just had a great suggestion from a facebook post.

All the automatic places stay the same.

All the play off spots all go in together. Put all the European teams in one hat and all the others (which was 6, so add in 2 more) in another hat. Winner goes to the world cup. You will still get a WORLD tournament but the best teams will get in, not also rans from other places.
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Why have separate hats? Throw them all in one hat and draw playoffs from that.
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Splodgenessabounds wrote:Why have separate hats? Throw them all in one hat and draw playoffs from that.
so you can't have teams from the same confederation playing each other, also it means UEFA would then get 4 more spots.
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I think this way is still the best...

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God is an Englishman wrote:Yet Peru or NZ and australia or Honduras will make it though.


I know which two teams from that 6, I'd rather watch in a world cup.

Glad to see your eye-sight hasn't improved....
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Stitch This wrote:I think this way is still the best...

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Is it one for every world cup you've not been in and one for every real world cup you've won.

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God is an Englishman wrote:Is it one for every world cup you've not been in and one for every real world cup you've won.

Time to add a new star.


Incorrect once again, try again
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God is an Englishman wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
The world cup should have the best teams in the world in it, not teams just making up the numbers.

Pedantic hat on, holland might make the next world cup but I'd think catalonia have more of a chance.
how do you determine the best teams in the world?

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Doovde wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:mate, that's because its not as embarrassing if England lose to Italy or Holland as opposed to say......'Iceland' or even Australia....

its a 'WORLD' cup....get over it!!!
The world cup should have the best teams in the world in it, not teams just making up the numbers.

Pedantic hat on, holland might make the next world cup but I'd think catalonia have more of a chance.
how do you determine the best teams in the world?
Don't separate qualifying via regions to start with.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Doovde wrote:
how do you determine the best teams in the world?
Don't separate qualifying via regions to start with.
agree, its a good start, but what is the whole plan?

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Doovde wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Doovde wrote:
how do you determine the best teams in the world?
Don't separate qualifying via regions to start with.
agree, its a good start, but what is the whole plan?
Because of the issues with travelling I would say keep qualification as it is apart from the play offs. Play offs become a world play off but no team can play another from the same confederation.
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Peru are ranked 10th in the world. NZ were the only team not to lose a game last world cup yet Brazil lost 7-1 in a game.

think it adds something different with the minnow being involved and good for development in those countries to improve and be more competitive against the big guns.

Australia were unlucky to lose to the Netherlands in one of the games of the tournament

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Because of the issues with travelling I would say keep qualification as it is apart from the play offs. Play offs become a world play off but no team can play another from the same confederation.
agree with the playoffs, would be like a miniature WC? best teams from go through regardless of how many from each region? (i.e they could all be from Europe and none from Asia, etc)

would still not prevent the situation we have now where Italy and Netherlands are out and Australia are in.

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Why send money & time on qualifying when each continent has its own championship already,best ranked teams get in-simple & cheap.

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predrag wrote:Why send money & time on qualifying when each continent has its own championship already,best ranked teams get in-simple & cheap.
Didn't South America and Africa do this for a while?
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You would have a pot of 6 UEFA top seeds and another pot of 2 UEFA, 1 AFC, 1 CONCACAF, 1 CONMEBOL and 1 OCEANiA.
Then you would draw 6 playoffs from there. Much fairer than the current system.
Netherlands would still miss out, but that's tough cabernet if you finish 3rd.

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Sounds like the "big teams" are a bit scared of losing to the "not so big teams".

One day they might wake up and understand that this makes the World Cup special and open to all sorts of results, including all sorts of upsets.

Heaven forbid the "big teams" are protected in any way........
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