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Re: Who replaces Roy as England Manager?

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Talk is Allardyce to be named in the next 24 hours. An ex Millwall player, I'm happy enough with that. A proper manager who won't take any cabernet.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Talk is Allardyce to be named in the next 24 hours. An ex Millwall player, I'm happy enough with that. A proper manager who won't take any cabernet.
Probably won't take any points off anyone either.
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Brian the Postman wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Talk is Allardyce to be named in the next 24 hours. An ex Millwall player, I'm happy enough with that. A proper manager who won't take any cabernet.
Probably won't take any points off anyone either.
as long as they play an English style game then I'll be happy. If you're going to lose, why lose playing cabernet possession for the sake of it football.
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Re: Who replaces Roy as England Manager?

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Brian the Postman wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Talk is Allardyce to be named in the next 24 hours. An ex Millwall player, I'm happy enough with that. A proper manager who won't take any cabernet.
Probably won't take any points off anyone either.
as long as they play an English style game then I'll be happy. If you're going to lose, why lose playing cabernet possession for the sake of it football.

The typical English football fan mentality these days...... "losers'!
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The club in your signature is the best example of what I'm talking about. Played possession for possessions sake and it got them to the bottom of the table. Changed it, played a touch more direct and they won the league.

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Agree GIAE - possession is all very well but if the possession doesn't result in shooting it's ineffective.

There's nothing genius about not giving away possession - it's been taught to kids by the most basic coaches for decades.

I would also like to see England play to their strengths and not try and imitate someone else's style.

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@ Hawksey previous post - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

dont embarrass yourself......
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MegaBonus wrote:@ Hawksey previous post - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

dont embarrass yourself......
So, they weren't bottom playing possession for possession's sake?

They didn't change that style and went a touch more direct?

They didn't win the league?
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Old Redback wrote:Agree GIAE - possession is all very well but if the possession doesn't result in shooting it's ineffective.

There's nothing genius about not giving away possession - it's been taught to kids by the most basic coaches for decades.

I would also like to see England play to their strengths and not try and imitate someone else's style.
When I coached, I encouraged players to keep the ball. That's obvious really.

But exactly right, look at England v Iceland. Dominated possession, had less shots, lost the game.
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@ Hawksey

they played possession for a reason even if it meant conceding 'silly' goals trying to play out the back....but you'll need to have an understanding why Gombau insisted on it (this has been explained ad nauseum). they also played a high line for a reason which meant they were prone to the counter attack.

yes, Amor tweaked the system but its still a possession style being played.

and yes....they won the championship playing a possession based game....

considering youve watched a handful of games since 'the revolution' began at Adelaide, i cant believe you pinging your reputation on hearsay and media articles.... :wink:
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You think I care about my reputation on here. I can count on one hand the people who actually understand the game.
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God is an Englishman wrote:You think I care about my reputation on here. I can count on one hand the people who actually understand the game.

Sadly for you, you aren't one of them. :lol:


Now Big Sam has been appointed we will soon find out the answer as to whether he will succeed or not.

Personally, I think he will do a lot better than any England manager since 1966.
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Old Master wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:You think I care about my reputation on here. I can count on one hand the people who actually understand the game.

Sadly for you, you aren't one of them. :lol:


Now Big Sam has been appointed we will soon find out the answer as to whether he will succeed or not.

Personally, I think he will do a lot better than any England manager since 1966.
Bearing in mind the count was being made by me, once again you're wrong. I counted myself.

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God is an Englishman wrote:The club in your signature is the best example of what I'm talking about. Played possession for possessions sake and it got them to the bottom of the table. Changed it, played a touch more direct and they won the league.

Where are you from?

My club in the picture, didn't write off their season after being bottom.


God is an Englishman wrote: as long as they play an English style game then I'll be happy. If you're going to lose, why lose playing cabernet possession for the sake of it football.

That's why England hasn't won anything in over 50 years!
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Wayne Kerr wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The club in your signature is the best example of what I'm talking about. Played possession for possessions sake and it got them to the bottom of the table. Changed it, played a touch more direct and they won the league.

Where are you from?

My club in the picture, didn't write off their season after being bottom.


God is an Englishman wrote: as long as they play an English style game then I'll be happy. If you're going to lose, why lose playing cabernet possession for the sake of it football.

That's why England hasn't won anything in over 50 years!
No they didn't write it off, the adjusted the way they played.

We won the World Cup in that time. Next.
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Old Master wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:You think I care about my reputation on here. I can count on one hand the people who actually understand the game.

Sadly for you, you aren't one of them. :lol:


Now Big Sam has been appointed we will soon find out the answer as to whether he will succeed or not.

Personally, I think he will do a lot better than any England manager since 1966.
To do 'a lot better' than Robson or Venables, he'll have to win a tournament. I don't see that happening.

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Cant wait to get back to an English style game (pump it long son). When we lose, i will still be happy cos we didnt play cabernet possession (IMO) for the sake of it football.
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Juventino wrote:
Old Master wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:You think I care about my reputation on here. I can count on one hand the people who actually understand the game.

Sadly for you, you aren't one of them. :lol:


Now Big Sam has been appointed we will soon find out the answer as to whether he will succeed or not.

Personally, I think he will do a lot better than any England manager since 1966.
To do 'a lot better' than Robson or Venables, he'll have to win a tournament. I don't see that happening.

Big sam hasnt won a dam thing.. only thing he is good for is emergency relegation battles

too bad you cant get relegated from international competitions

the English are embracing themselves for another stint of nothingness :lol:
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Kosta Utd wrote: Big sam hasnt won a dam thing.. only thing he is good for is emergency relegation battles

too bad you cant get relegated from international competitions

the English are embracing themselves for another stint of nothingness :lol:

......maybe when you criticize the English you should do it with better English?

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Wayne Kerr wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The club in your signature is the best example of what I'm talking about. Played possession for possessions sake and it got them to the bottom of the table. Changed it, played a touch more direct and they won the league.

Where are you from?

My club in the picture, didn't write off their season after being bottom.


God is an Englishman wrote: as long as they play an English style game then I'll be happy. If you're going to lose, why lose playing cabernet possession for the sake of it football.


That's why England hasn't won anything in over 50 years!
No they didn't write it off, the adjusted the way they played.

We won the World Cup in that time. Next.

Now you are definitely making a fool of yourself, well done!
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Were your lot bottom playing possession for possessions sake football?
Did they adjust the style?
Did they then win the league?
Have England won the World Cup inside the last 50 years?
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^^^^^^^^why do you continue to embarrass yourself...l

Were your lot bottom playing possession for possessions sake football?....yes, it took time to learn it and apply it in Gombau's first year
Did they adjust the style?.....yes....and we were still bottom in Amor's first year....it took time to learn and adjust
Did they then win the league?....yes, with a possession style game
as for England...they provide comic relief every 2 years....a country gets the govt it deserves, this also applies to its national coach...however, like you, i applaud the decision to appoint an English coach.
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MegaBonus wrote:^^^^^^^^why do you continue to embarrass yourself...l

Were your lot bottom playing possession for possessions sake football?....yes, it took time to learn it and apply it in Gombau's first year
Did they adjust the style?.....yes....and we were still bottom in Amor's first year....it took time to learn and adjust
Did they then win the league?....yes, with a possession style game
as for England...they provide comic relief every 2 years....a country gets the govt it deserves, this also applies to its national coach...however, like you, i applaud the decision to appoint an English coach.
You've agreed with everything I have said, so how have I embarrassed myself?
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MegaBonus wrote:^^^^^^^^why do you continue to embarrass yourself...l

Were your lot bottom playing possession for possessions sake football?....yes, it took time to learn it and apply it in Gombau's first year
Did they adjust the style?.....yes....and we were still bottom in Amor's first year....it took time to learn and adjust
Did they then win the league?....yes, with a possession style game
as for England...they provide comic relief every 2 years....a country gets the govt it deserves, this also applies to its national coach...however, like you, i applaud the decision to appoint an English coach.

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In defence of Big Sam, he may not have won anything but he's never been given the job at a club with the players & resources to do that.

Maybe, just maybe, he will be able to get the English players to play for England with the same passion they play for their clubs?

Only Alf Ramsey has managed that to date, so hopefully he can do the same?
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Kosta Utd wrote:Big sam hasnt won a dam thing.. only thing he is good for is emergency relegation battles

too bad you cant get relegated from international competitions

the English are embracing themselves for another stint of nothingness :lol:
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Mackem Lad wrote:
Kosta Utd wrote:Big sam hasnt won a dam thing.. only thing he is good for is emergency relegation battles

too bad you cant get relegated from international competitions

the English are embracing themselves for another stint of nothingness :lol:
can't relegated but you can not qualify!
You mean like Greece & Man Utd have done?

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carn fellas were talking about the englisi's becoming a stronger nation under big Sam's leadership :lol: keep on topic hey
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As if!
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Old Master wrote:In defence of Big Sam, he may not have won anything but he's never been given the job at a club with the players & resources to do that.

Maybe, just maybe, he will be able to get the English players to play for England with the same passion they play for their clubs?

Only Alf Ramsey has managed that to date, so hopefully he can do the same?
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