The danger of Asian owners

[Old Master]

This is one of the dangers of allowing Asian (and Arab) millionaires to take over your football club - they want to change everything to suit their own people's values and care little for the history of the club.


Hull City: New badge for 2014-15 campaign has no name
By Simon Stone BBC Sport

Hull City have unveiled a new crest for the 2014-15 season, which does not feature the club's name.

The latest redesign follows owner Assem Allam's plans to change the club's name to Hull Tigers, which was rejected by the Football Association in April.

“The FA has no jurisdiction over badges, but this undermines their judgement”

Mark Gretton Fans' group City Till We Die

The badge bears only a tiger's head and the year of the club's formation, 1904.

"Why, when the club is more successful than ever, would you not tell everyone your name," said Mark Gretton, of fans' group City Till We Die.

According to the club's vice-chairman Ehab Allam, the new crest is a "more stripped back and modern approach which still celebrates the club's heritage and history".

Yet, as the Premier League club prepare for their Europa League debut after reaching last season's FA Cup final, the move has angered the supporters' group.

They have described the move as "extremely foolish".

"It is ludicrous," Gretton told BBC Sport.

"The FA has no jurisdiction over badges, but this undermines their judgement. We have become the club with no name. It is remarkable. We have a global brand already. It is Hull City. Our nickname is the Tigers."

[Stuckey]

This is just going to happen more and more all over the world. If the FA are so worried about it, why don't they support fan trusts? Set up a system that allows groups of fans to set up trusts easily allowing them the ability to take a stake in their clubs give the fans/community a stake in their club. As we have all seen in Germany the rule of a percentage of fan ownership in Bundesliga clubs give the clubs the stability they require to build for the future and not go out and buy the best on offer. Although now some of the larger clubs have now grown to the size that they are able to go and buy those players without risking their sustainability.

[Old Master]

The problem here is that we don't have enough supporters to form a Trust and the economy is going South fast.

[Stuckey]

The problem here is that we don't have enough supporters to form a Trust and the economy is going South fast.

I doubt that if one started with a club like Hull where many fans aren't happy they could get a decent sum rolling. It could at least get them a starting figure that could get their foot in the door on the board. If it could be set up as a not-for-profit and money donated could be claimed as a donation allowing members to claim it on tax that might work.

[God is an Englishman]

The problem here is that we don't have enough supporters to form a Trust and the economy is going South fast.

I doubt that if one started with a club like Hull where many fans aren't happy they could get a decent sum rolling. It could at least get them a starting figure that could get their foot in the door on the board. If it could be set up as a not-for-profit and money donated could be claimed as a donation allowing members to claim it on tax that might work.

I don't believe England has tax concessions for such things. Not a tax expert though.

[Stuckey]

The problem here is that we don't have enough supporters to form a Trust and the economy is going South fast.

I doubt that if one started with a club like Hull where many fans aren't happy they could get a decent sum rolling. It could at least get them a starting figure that could get their foot in the door on the board. If it could be set up as a not-for-profit and money donated could be claimed as a donation allowing members to claim it on tax that might work.

I don't believe England has tax concessions for such things. Not a tax expert though.

Well if its one thing England do have a lot of its tax concessions!

[Old Master]

I doubt that if one started with a club like Hull where many fans aren't happy they could get a decent sum rolling. It could at least get them a starting figure that could get their foot in the door on the board. If it could be set up as a not-for-profit and money donated could be claimed as a donation allowing members to claim it on tax that might work.[/quote]


I don't believe England has tax concessions for such things. Not a tax expert though.[/quote]
Well if its one thing England do have a lot of its tax concessions![/quote]


Especially for the Rich and Entitled.

[God is an Englishman]

Well if its one thing England do have a lot of its tax concessions!

Would love to hear more about this, I can claim infinitely more over here.

[Nice One Cyril]

Especially for the Rich and Entitled.

#chiponshoulder

[sephiroth]

he owns the club. why can't he change the name?

[Stuckey]

Well if its one thing England do have a lot of its tax concessions!

Would love to hear more about this, I can claim infinitely more over here.

My missus was an accountant over there. From what I gathered loads of people in that industry were getting taxed at 10%-20% At one point I was earning a fraction of her wage and getting taxed a similar amount. Rules for some and rules for others its certain.

[Old Master]

Especially for the Rich and Entitled.

#chiponshoulder

Only against those who don't pay their fair share of the Tax burden.

[God is an Englishman]

Especially for the Rich and Entitled.

#chiponshoulder

Only against those who don't pay their fair share of the Tax burden.

My fair share is shiraz all, so I'm overpaying.

[Old Master]

Tell someone who cares.