FA Cup 3rd Round Draw.

[BTAC]

I wonder what the Pool fans would prefer to have happened.

They get a penalty and go to 2-2 and Gerrard gets sent off, thereby missing the next game (whomever that is), or they don't get a penalty, go out of the Cup, have less games to worry about and their Captain can still play?

PS. Getting the penalty and Gerrard staying on the pitch is not one of the offered options

I'd prefer to still be in the cup.

[The Kop]

I wonder what the Pool fans would prefer to have happened.

They get a penalty and go to 2-2 and Gerrard gets sent off, thereby missing the next game (whomever that is), or they don't get a penalty, go out of the Cup, have less games to worry about and their Captain can still play?

PS. Getting the penalty and Gerrard staying on the pitch is not one of the offered options

Reckon we’d do OK at home to Swansea without Gerrard.

[Bomber]

I wonder what the Pool fans would prefer to have happened.

They get a penalty and go to 2-2 and Gerrard gets sent off, thereby missing the next game (whomever that is), or they don't get a penalty, go out of the Cup, have less games to worry about and their Captain can still play?

PS. Getting the penalty and Gerrard staying on the pitch is not one of the offered options

I'd prefer to still be in the cup.

Me too.

[N5 1BH]

it was only time before the gif was posted.



minimal contact........

I still see the same thing, the contact was minimal in relation to the reaction of Suarez. He toes the ball away (so no longer has control) then turns into the expected tackle and rolls around like a goose, all of it pre-empted . No way the contact made could possibly cause that kind of reaction (how many roll overs? reminded me of Klinsman in the 80s). He was obviously attempting to 'earn' the penalty and put enough doubt in the refs mind.

[ozzie owl]

it was only time before the gif was posted.



minimal contact........

I still see the same thing, the contact was minimal in relation to the reaction of Suarez. He toes the ball away (so no longer has control) then turns into the expected tackle and rolls around like a goose, all of it pre-empted . No way the contact made could possibly cause that kind of reaction (how many roll overs? reminded me of Klinsman in the 80s). He was obviously attempting to 'earn' the penalty and put enough doubt in the refs mind.

I agree no penalty.

[BTAC]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

[Derek]

Was a penalty, but Suarez's reaction to the contact was pathetic .

[Chaos]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Here here. As for Kop though. That was a body check, no ankles hit there.

Once again. skrtel has gotten away with dozens of pens this year. What goes around...

[N5 1BH]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

[El Capitano]

I really want to like Suarez, but he makes it so damn hard.

[Victoria's Secret]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

Even Wenger saw it. Case closed.

[totsreds08]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

[Suarez]

It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty

Flawless logic sir.

[N5 1BH]

It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty

Flawless logic sir.

Thanks Louis. So that's settled then it wasn't a penalty, case closed

[BTAC]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

He's five feet away from it, with no obstructions. There are no excuses for not giving that pen. Disgraceful refereeing, and you're a bell end.

[Chaos]

I really want to like Suarez, but he makes it so damn hard.

No worries Januzaj, or do you prefer the old faithful Ashley Young...

[totsreds08]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

So by your logic no ref makes a mistake? Because if the don't ever call a foul, then it isn't there? So referees are perfect?

[Nice One Cyril]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

So by your logic no ref makes a mistake? Because if the don't ever call a foul, then it isn't there? So referees are perfect?

Obviously not, or they'd give at least two penalties every game against Skrtel and Agger for their MMA style and Webb would have sent Captain Gerrard off for a second hack.

[Victoria's Secret]

Gerrard was subjective, I thought he was going to be sent off, but neither foul was that bad so It would have been harsh. And he gave the free kick. I still say with rules as they are it should now be 3 yellows and you are off or a sin bin as it's so easy to get cautioned.

The penalty he didn't give. That was just wrong.

As I said I have no sour grapes we lost and we move on, BUT it was a blatant penalty that he inexcusably git wrong, will the FA have the balls to drop him after a few howlers?

[Con M]

Rodgers is quoted in today's paper as saying Suarez is being unfairly treated, based on reputation of other incidents. He's got a point because Suarez has only received 2 yellow cards for simulation, the same as 8 other players (refer separate thread "Only 31 yellow cards for diving in 900 EPL games").

The Ox fouled Suarez and it should have been a penalty. I don't think Webb booked Suarez for simulation after the incident at the first break of play either.

In the end I'm still glad Arsenal won and went part of the way for redemption after the 1-5 @ Anfield. But this could easily have been 2-2 and a replay.

[haywood djablowme]

Gerrard was subjective, I thought he was going to be sent off, but neither foul was that bad so It would have been harsh. And he gave the free kick. I still say with rules as they are it should now be 3 yellows and you are off or a sin bin as it's so easy to get cautioned.

The penalty he didn't give. That was just wrong.
As I said I have no sour grapes we lost and we move on, BUT it was a blatant penalty that he inexcusably git wrong, will the FA have the balls to drop him after a few howlers?

As ive said, yes should of been given but take your glasses off Pool fans. Skrtel was also a pen on Carzola with 10mins to play

Maybe Webb turned away that one as he knew he stuffed up on the 2nd not given.... & tbh the first was a very soft pen anyway

[BTAC]

Gerrard was subjective, I thought he was going to be sent off, but neither foul was that bad so It would have been harsh. And he gave the free kick. I still say with rules as they are it should now be 3 yellows and you are off or a sin bin as it's so easy to get cautioned.

The penalty he didn't give. That was just wrong.
As I said I have no sour grapes we lost and we move on, BUT it was a blatant penalty that he inexcusably git wrong, will the FA have the balls to drop him after a few howlers?

As ive said, yes should of been given but take your glasses off Pool fans. Skrtel was also a pen on Carzola with 10mins to play

Maybe Webb turned away that one as he knew he stuffed up on the 2nd not given.... & tbh the first was a very soft pen anyway

Soft, yeah. Definitely a pen though. Podolski was absolutely brain dead.

[Victoria's Secret]

what glasses? Skrtel was possibly a pen, but Suarez was blatant.

You win some and you lose some, but nothing wrong with highlighting how bad Webb was. As others have come out and said too - ex refs mainly. That shows how poor he was.

[haywood djablowme]

Soft, yeah. Definitely a pen though. Podolski was absolutely brain dead.

So was Stevie G, with his tackle on Ox!

[haywood djablowme]

what glasses? Skrtel was possibly a pen, but Suarez was blatant.

You win some and you lose some, but nothing wrong with highlighting how bad Webb was. As others have come out and said too - ex refs mainly. That shows how poor he was.

Umm the glasses you still have on. Both blatant, both not given

[N5 1BH]

Jesus, if you genuinely don't think that's a pen, football isn't for you.

Armchair supporters view of football in action. It is only a penalty if the ref gives a penalty and he can only do that if he is in NO DOUBT an offence has been committed. You've all had the benefit of watching 2 separate camera angles 100 times. Ignore the 2nd shot, the angle from behind the goal it has no relevance because the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay from that angle. The first shot is closest to what the ref sees, watch it closely there is a clear impression of minimal contact and of Suarez (a notorious cheat) deliberately throwing himself to the ground. whether what the ref saw in real time is reality or not is not the point but look again and if you genuinely don't understand why the ref had doubts then football isn't for you

So by your logic no ref makes a mistake? Because if the don't ever call a foul, then it isn't there? So referees are perfect?

Why do you all have such difficulty coming to terms with the very real possibility that the ridiculous and embarrassing theatricals of the delicate genius put doubt in the refs mind and cost liverpool a decision that would most likely have ended in a goal and kept them in the cup. What was the refs mistake? he can only call what he sees in real time. Are you seriously suggesting that Suarez didn’t throw himself to the ground. He got what he deserved and you all know it.

Suarez should have a look at his little apprentice Raheem Sterling, his diving has been more productive lately, like at Stoke the other week much to the amusement of Rodgers. Spanish penalty my muscat, it’s a f!#king dive.

[totsreds08]

Watch the replay. You can see Webb in the background shaking his finger before Suarez even hits the floor.
So no, Suarez going to ground didn't change his opinion. He generally can't make big calls in big games.

[BTAC]

Soft, yeah. Definitely a pen though. Podolski was absolutely brain dead.

So was Stevie G, with his tackle on Ox!

I don't disagree. He normally nails those challenges though tbf, so I can see why he went for it. It was just stupid to try it on a yellow.

No idea what Podolski was thinking though. I'd say he'd have been ripped a new muscat after the game.

[haywood djablowme]

Soft, yeah. Definitely a pen though. Podolski was absolutely brain dead.

So was Stevie G, with his tackle on Ox!

I don't disagree. He normally nails those challenges though tbf, so I can see why he went for it. It was just stupid to try it on a yellow.

No idea what Podolski was thinking though. I'd say he'd have been ripped a new muscat after the game.

Thats why Podolski doesn't get much game time for us on the left cause he cant defend to save his life. Gives our LB no cover at all

[The Kop]

I’ve got no problem being knocked out, the Liverpool defending was amateur and Arsenal capitalised. Sturridge could have won the tie off his own boot.
Ultimately that’s what cost us, not Webb – as incompetent a ref as she is.

But this penalty talk takes the cake. That’s clearcut penalty in any league in any country in the world. If you’re gonna be saying it’s not then at least have the decency to use blue text!