Difference between Man Utd and the Others

[medicare]

United opting to spend money on their training facility instead of buying more players - Utd have invested £30m into improving United's Carrington Training Ground

‘It’s going to be fantastic. At the moment it’s a bit of a bombsite, but it’s supposed to be completed by October and we just hope it’s ready on time. They’ll be spending about £30m and its all down to them.’

Ferguson responded to fans’ frustration at the lack of summer transfer activity by insisting he was not prepared to fork out inflated transfer fees. Responding to the fans’ clamour for a £30million-plus signing, he said: ‘Well they can wait!

‘We buy in the right way and that’s the difference between United and the rest — we can play 18-year-olds because it’s part of our history. It’s like a destiny for us that when a young player emerges we play him, and that has never failed us.

‘No other clubs can do that. City won’t do it. They definitely won’t play any young players who have come up through the system. Their buys are all 25, 26, 27-year-old established players with a good maturity, experience and good ages. They won’t go away because the age group tells you that. They don’t have any over-30s in their team.

They don’t play any young players and the fans don’t expect any youth players to come through the way we expect them to at United.’

While Chelsea have spent huge amounts to sign the likes of Eden Hazard, the United boss has spent a total of about £20m to bring in Japan forward Shinji Kagawa and teenage midfielder Nick Powell.

‘There is a borderline in terms of what you would think is a good signing for United,’ said Ferguson. ‘I see some values on players, like Hazard for instance. To me it was a lot of money. He’s a good player, but £34m?

‘What we’re finding anyway, the climate for buying these top players — not just the transfer fees, [but] the salaries, agent’s fees — is just getting ridiculous now. In the Hazard deal, Chelsea paid the agent £6m. The Nasri situation was the same.

‘It’s all about what you think is value for a player. I am not envious of those deals at all. We placed a value on Hazard which was well below what they were talking about. So if it doesn’t work, well we’re not worried about that. We think we’ve got good value in Kagawa.

‘We scout well. Sometimes we do the scouting for other clubs. The minute the agent knew we’d spoken to Powell, I think every club was in with offers. But we’d done the deal.

‘Whenever we show interest in a player it activates the situation with other clubs. But we’ve done well over the years. We’ve bought well, one or two bad ones, no doubt about that, but you handle that.

[Del Boca Vista]

they're backed by the queen

[JolyV]

they're backed by the queen

and done
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[pernunz]

United opting to spend money on their training facility instead of buying more players - Utd have invested £30m into improving United's Carrington Training Ground

Manchester City unveil 80-acre Etihad Academy plan

They don’t play any young players and the fans don’t expect any youth players to come through the way we expect them to at United.’

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?

De Gea/Evra/Ferdinand/Vidic/Jones/Smalling/Rafael/Fabio: Bought
Carrick/Kagawa/Nani/Valencia/Anderson: Bought
Rooney/Hernandez/Berbatov/Bebe: Bought

The only "Academy" players are Giggs, Scholes and Welbeck.

[The Kop]

This is surprise? Classic bacon face misinformation. Every press conference has an underlying agenda, nothing is answered at face value. He’s preparing the lemmings for a lean transfer window.
If he was around in WWII, most of Europe would probably be eating haggis.

[ozzie owl]

6m to an agent is crazy, these guys are bleeding the game.

[nathanburns15]

Chelsea spent insane amounts of money on a brand new training ground which was completed in 2008. I guess we shouldn't have bought Hazard and got another training ground instead?

[DOC]

i think teams need to find a balance between youth products and buying talent, united have shown they do it better than most, chelsea and man city have needed massive investment in order to catch up to them

[nathanburns15]

i think teams need to find a balance between youth products and buying talent, united have shown they do it better than most, chelsea and man city have needed massive investment in order to catch up to them

Exactly.
2 Youth Cups in 3 years shows that we are investing quite well in youth. The key is getting these 17/18 year old's regular first team action, be it at Chelsea or on loan. I think the introduction of the Under 21 League and the scrapping of the Reserve League will help a lot with this.

[DOC]

i think teams need to find a balance between youth products and buying talent, united have shown they do it better than most, chelsea and man city have needed massive investment in order to catch up to them

Exactly.
2 Youth Cups in 3 years shows that we are investing quite well in youth. The key is getting these 17/18 year old's regular first team action, be it at Chelsea or on loan. I think the introduction of the Under 21 League and the scrapping of the Reserve League will help a lot with this.

but now united are struggling with the youth hence the investment and hence fergie, being a good manager, putting positive spin on it and having a dig at a few teams

[The Kop]

United opting to spend money on their training facility instead of buying more players - Utd have invested £30m into improving United's Carrington Training Ground

‘It’s going to be fantastic. At the moment it’s a bit of a bombsite, but it’s supposed to be completed by October and we just hope it’s ready on time. They’ll be spending about £30m and its all down to them.’

Ferguson responded to fans’ frustration at the lack of summer transfer activity by insisting he was not prepared to fork out inflated transfer fees. Responding to the fans’ clamour for a £30million-plus signing, he said: ‘Well they can wait!

‘We buy in the right way and that’s the difference between United and the rest — we can play 18-year-olds because it’s part of our history. It’s like a destiny for us that when a young player emerges we play him, and that has never failed us.

While Chelsea have spent huge amounts to sign the likes of Eden Hazard, the United boss has spent a total of about £20m to bring in Japan forward Shinji Kagawa and teenage midfielder Nick Powell.

‘There is a borderline in terms of what you would think is a good signing for United,’ said Ferguson. ‘I see some values on players, like Hazard for instance. To me it was a lot of money. He’s a good player, but £34m?

‘What we’re finding anyway, the climate for buying these top players — not just the transfer fees, [but] the salaries, agent’s fees — is just getting ridiculous now. In the Hazard deal, Chelsea paid the agent £6m. The Nasri situation was the same.

hahaha you couldn't make this sh*t up really:

Rafael has urged Lucas Moura to join Manchester United and has claimed his fellow Brazilian is excited about the prospect of moving to Old Trafford.

Teenage midfielder Lucas is one of world football's most coveted talents and has reportedly been the subject of an offer from the Red Devils.

His current club Sao Paulo claim to have turned down a bid of €35million (£27m) for the 19-year-old, who is also a target for Inter Milan.

Lucas is presently part of Brazil's squad for the Olympics, alongside Rafael, and it appears the two have spoken about the chance to sign for United.

Full-back Rafael said in the Daily Star Sunday: "Yes, I have told Lucas he should come to Manchester United, of course."

And, when asked whether Lucas was excited about coming to United, Rafael replied: "Yes, yes!"

Another member of Brazil's Olympic squad who could be on his way to the Premier League is Oscar, who has undergone a medical at Chelsea.

Oscar has confirmed he will make a final decision on his future after the Olympics and Rafael feels the midfielder can enjoy an impact in English football.

He added: "I have heard about Oscar coming to Chelsea and he is a good player and very important to Brazil.

"I really think he will do very well in the Premier League because he is a talented player."

So Hazard, proven in a very good Euro league isn't value but the latest Brazilian hyperbole next big thing is worth a few million less...

[nathanburns15]

For what it's worth I don't have an issue with too much that is written in the article, it's the title of the article that bothers me. Ridiculously arrogant.

[robinfriday10]

sounds like the rags playing catch up

[Victoria's Secret]

this sums it all up

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/latest/sir- ... -real-fan/

[barcabarcabarca]

howard web

[Theatre of Dreams]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?


Dont claim Joe Hart...he was purchased from Shrewsbury for 600,000GBP when he was 19 so wasnt a City academy player.

United have currently in their first team squad Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher, Cleverley, Welbeck and Amos who came through the Academy. Not to mention the countless Academy graduates that went on to play at other Premier League clubs....might wanna do a bit more research before trying to compare United's academy to Shitty's

[Theatre of Dreams]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?


Dont claim Joe Hart...he was purchased from Shrewsbury for 600,000GBP when he was 19 so wasnt a City academy player.

United have currently in their first team squad Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher, Cleverley, Welbeck and Amos who came through the Academy. Not to mention the countless Academy graduates that went on to play at other Premier League clubs....might wanna do a bit more research before trying to compare United's academy to Shitty's

Sorry forgot Jonny Evans aswell....i gues there's just to many to remember...

[Victoria's Secret]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?


Dont claim Joe Hart...he was purchased from Shrewsbury for 600,000GBP when he was 19 so wasnt a City academy player.

United have currently in their first team squad Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher, Cleverley, Welbeck and Amos who came through the Academy. Not to mention the countless Academy graduates that went on to play at other Premier League clubs....might wanna do a bit more research before trying to compare United's academy to Shitty's

The fact is, UTD haven't had much real quality com through recently. The golden area of scholes, giggs butt etc is long ago, and you now rely on buying players. Ferguson shot himself in the foot this time, admit it and move on.

[pernunz]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?

Dont claim Joe Hart...he was purchased from Shrewsbury for 600,000GBP when he was 19 so wasnt a City academy player.

United have currently in their first team squad Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher, Cleverley, Welbeck and Amos who came through the Academy. Not to mention the countless Academy graduates that went on to play at other Premier League clubs....might wanna do a bit more research before trying to compare United's academy to Shitty's

Was just using the current City first team as an example, because all United fans seem to want a pissing contest between the two . Was unaware about Hart coming from Shrewsbury. Learn something new every day.

Fletcher is unlikely to play again (sad story), and Cleverley/Amos have played less than a dozen games for the first team. You can talk about developing youth all you like, but you can't honestly believe that Manchester United are a bastion of shining light for youth development in the first team over the last decade in the English game?

[Le King]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?

2? is that all hahahaha

players from our academy still playing are: giggs, scholes, welbeck, fletcher, cleverley, evans.
not to mention players playing for other teams that have come through our system like: phil neville, wes brown, john oshea, danny simpson, paul pogba(would have broke into 1st team but wanted money), morrison

does that answer it for u?

[Old Redback]

I thought the difference was that United's fans are all wankas and other clubs half somne half decent intelligent non sheep supporting them?

[pernunz]

I thought the difference was that United's fans are all wankas and other clubs half somne half decent intelligent non sheep supporting them?

[El Capitano]

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Sorry, damage has been done... Move along

[Victoria's Secret]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?

2? is that all hahahaha

players from our academy still playing are: giggs, scholes, welbeck, fletcher, cleverley, evans.
not to mention players playing for other teams that have come through our system like: phil neville, wes brown, john oshea, danny simpson, paul pogba(would have broke into 1st team but wanted money), morrison

does that answer it for u?

I reckon Liverpool have more players from their academy still playing, and most are full internationals. So what is your point?

[The Wise Monkey]

Theres only 2 types of football supporters, those that support Man Utd and and those that wish they did.

[Old Redback]

Theres only 2 types of football supporters, those that support Man Utd who don't live anywhere or have never been to Manchester and love jumping on the bandwagon and those that know something about loyalty, real football and are not wanks.

Edited for accuracy. oh and

[Theatre of Dreams]

So who exactly is Michae Richards and Joe Hart? Who are the youngsters of the Manchester United Academy that are coming through, playing regularly?

2? is that all hahahaha

players from our academy still playing are: giggs, scholes, welbeck, fletcher, cleverley, evans.
not to mention players playing for other teams that have come through our system like: phil neville, wes brown, john oshea, danny simpson, paul pogba(would have broke into 1st team but wanted money), morrison

does that answer it for u?

I reckon Liverpool have more players from their academy still playing, and most are full internationals. So what is your point?

You could say that about a few clubs but how many of them have one Premier League titles??? Not the Liverpool ones

[ronaldo07]

19 titles ..
now that's the diff !!

[BTAC]

19 titles ..
now that's the diff !!

23 > 22.

[God is an Englishman]

I love the fallacy that man u don't spend money on players