LotG - Protecting the Keeper

[Judge Judy]

Where does this come from, the whole 'must protect the keeper' thing? A referee said on the weekend that they must protect the keeper, this was after they were queried on a freekick given to the keeper. Had a quick browse through the Laws of the Game and couldn't see anything referencing it. I'd have thought keepers can protect themself better than anyone else on the park.

[chunky-monkey]

Seen a situation yesterday where a player was cautioned, and sent off as it was his 2nd for contesting a 50/50 ball as the keeper was charging outside his area. Both players entitled to go for the ball and was no malice in the challenge. Thought it was a poor decision by the referee.

[Adolf Hĭtler]

I'e played in goal all my life and always thought they were over protected and often shook my head at free kicks that were given my way.

[POLONIAROCS]

I was a referee in a game on the weekend. Similar situation from a corner.

Corner is taken and a ball is floated into the box. Attacker comes in from one side to header the ball.

Keeper comes from the other side and hits his own player + the attacker but misses the ball as the attacker gets their 1st.

The defending team all kick up a fuss that I didnt reward a freekick.

When a forward beats the keeper to the ball and they collide with the keeper everyone kicks up a fuss.

When a keeper beats the forward to the ball and punches it and then collides with a forward nothing is said.

[penalty]

There is no where in the laws that the goalkeeper must be protected.

[swannsong]

I think goalkeepers are protected somewhat because they are a unique species and often the most intellectually superior player that a team may have.

[chemical brother]

Well in every game I've played I've never been protected protect myself n let who ever know I want that ball ask some of the defenders

[bloodypassit]

Well in every game I've played I've never been protected protect myself n let who ever know I want that ball ask some of the defenders

good to see you back

[Sotally Tober]

Where does this come from, the whole 'must protect the keeper' thing? A referee said on the weekend that they must protect the keeper, this was after they were queried on a freekick given to the keeper. Had a quick browse through the Laws of the Game and couldn't see anything referencing it. I'd have thought keepers can protect themself better than anyone else on the park.

As a moderator who should know better why didn't you post tis in the referees and lotg forum?

[astonvilla91]

It is an offence to restrict the movement of the goalkeeper by unfairly impeding him

So it goes to the ref if he thinks a player is fairly challenging for the ball or if he's just jumping at the keeper to get in his way.

[Judge Judy]

Where does this come from, the whole 'must protect the keeper' thing? A referee said on the weekend that they must protect the keeper, this was after they were queried on a freekick given to the keeper. Had a quick browse through the Laws of the Game and couldn't see anything referencing it. I'd have thought keepers can protect themself better than anyone else on the park.

As a moderator who should know better why didn't you post tis in the referees and lotg forum?

I wanted to address the Amateur League community.

[Sotally Tober]

Yet when someone wants to ask the SA football community about the Def Leppard tour about their tour it gets moved to the music forum.

[Judge Judy]

Yet when someone wants to ask the SA football community about the Def Leppard tour about their tour it gets moved to the music forum.

I'm sure if the same moderator that moved that thread comes across this one, they'll do something similar.

[Outlaw 2.0]

Where does this come from, the whole 'must protect the keeper' thing? A referee said on the weekend that they must protect the keeper, this was after they were queried on a freekick given to the keeper. Had a quick browse through the Laws of the Game and couldn't see anything referencing it. I'd have thought keepers can protect themself better than anyone else on the park.

As a moderator who should know better why didn't you post tis in the referees and lotg forum?

I wanted to address the Amateur League community.

Was this in reference to an amateur league game that you were playing in? Are you questioning a rule in the amateur league specifically? If so carry on.

I was a referee in a game on the weekend. Similar situation from a corner.

Corner is taken and a ball is floated into the box. Attacker comes in from one side to header the ball.

Keeper comes from the other side and hits his own player + the attacker but misses the ball as the attacker gets their 1st.
The defending team all kick up a fuss that I didnt reward a freekick.

When a forward beats the keeper to the ball and they collide with the keeper everyone kicks up a fuss.

When a keeper beats the forward to the ball and punches it and then collides with a forward nothing is said.

Did you award the penalty??

[Sotally Tober]

Played the advantage and allowed the goal.

[POLONIAROCS]

I was a referee in a game on the weekend. Similar situation from a corner.

Corner is taken and a ball is floated into the box. Attacker comes in from one side to header the ball.

Keeper comes from the other side and hits his own player + the attacker but misses the ball as the attacker gets their 1st.
The defending team all kick up a fuss that I didnt reward a freekick.

When a forward beats the keeper to the ball and they collide with the keeper everyone kicks up a fuss.

When a keeper beats the forward to the ball and punches it and then collides with a forward nothing is said.

Did you award the penalty??[/quote]

No penalty was given

[Sotally Tober]

Why would you award a penalty if a goal has been scored?

[Outlaw 2.0]

Why would you award a penalty if a goal has been scored?

He never said that a goal was scored but in the instance it was, advantage-play on-goal is the correct scanerio here. In the instance there was no advantage and given the keeper hit the attacker on the way through I would have thought a penalty would be awarded.

[Sotally Tober]

Keeper comes from the other side and hits his own player + the attacker but misses the ball as the attacker gets their 1st.

It was a pretty bold statement.

[Outlaw 2.0]

Keeper comes from the other side and hits his own player + the attacker but misses the ball as the attacker gets their 1st.

It was a pretty bold statement.

your point?

[Sotally Tober]

Play the advantage and allow the goal.

[n8]

I love the free kick for blocking the goalkeepers run on a corner just step into the attackers back call ref and 99 times in a 100 u get the free kick...

I was bewilded the other day when I got told by the ref to not be so aggressive going for the ball and to not protect myself with my knee...so I so think the refs are trying to even it up a little bit and protect the player as well in challenges with the keeper

[Sotally Tober]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

[n8]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

One of the first thing any keeper gets taught is to jump and protect yourself with a knee up...

[Sotally Tober]

I never did it, nor did I feel a need to.

[brushmancity]

Hey I played for over 20 years from 74 and believe me in those days you had to protect yourself. These days if you breathe on a keeper they'll get a free. The whole game is TOO SOFT.

[Black_Panther]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

Agreed, I also don't like keepers lashing out or barging into players who run across their line (but don't make contact), refs in amateurs let a lot of this stuff go.

[dinozoff]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

One of the first thing any keeper gets taught is to jump and protect yourself with a knee up...

+1

Protects you from coping an elbow to the stomach from the striker scum

[paul merson]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

Try running forward and jumping to your highest point with out your driving knee going up, you'd look like Superman with out a cape.
The main reason for driving your knee through the jump is for height and stability not to hit people.

As for players jumping into GK's taking a high ball and claiming they were trying to get the ball, being the GK can raise their arms it means we take the ball well above the height a player could with their head, so in fact if they were challenging for the ball realistically the player should be jumping at least a metre or so behind the GK assuming GK is taking the ball at the highest point, so 90% of players 'challenging GKs for the ball' are merely jumping into the GK hoping the collision will make him spill the ball.

[God is an Englishman]

No one (keeper included) should be going up with their knee out.

One of the first thing any keeper gets taught is to jump and protect yourself with a knee up...

Should be a free kick every time. If a midfielder jumped like that making contact it would be a free kick, so why not if its a keeper.