SAASL - FFSA ??

[swannsong]

Be interesting to see how this hopefully progresses !

[wizard]

Would be great for the game in SA.

What would it mean for teams with Ethnic names? They'd have to change I assume.

[Rookie]

Well overdue but i ain't holding my breath

[Stitch This]

Would be great for the game in SA.

What would it mean for teams with Ethnic names? They'd have to change I assume.

Unlikely.

[sephiroth]

notice he says FFA and not FFSA in his quote. this will go nowhere.

[gone]

If FFSA get one place in the FFA Cup for their 29 clubs, should SAASL get 3 spots for their 87 clubs?

[swannsong]

If FFSA get one place in the FFA Cup for their 29 clubs, should SAASL get 3 spots for their 87 clubs?

The State is looked at as a collective total ie SA will have 116 Clubs.

[Fresh Football]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

[PASC]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

This!

[dj_no.1]

What benefits are there for the saasl to join the ffsa?

[bloodypassit]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

I don't see the collegiate league paying massive affiliation fees to the FFSA

[Black_Panther]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

I don't see the collegiate league paying massive affiliation fees to the FFSA

Do the collegiate teams make up part of the 29 clubs listed?

[God is an Englishman]

What benefits are there for the saasl to join the ffsa?

There aren't any.

[Bomber]

What benefits are there for the saasl to join the ffsa?

There aren't any.

Not quite true. The way some carry on, Parafield Gardens or Lizzie Downs could win the local Fed Cup, qualify for FFA cup, win that and get into the ACL!

All cabernet aside, if anything the FFSA should join the SAASL at least as far as admin goes. If you need to re-badge the name of the new "joint" governing body to appease the masses, so be it.

[PASC]

What benefits are there for the saasl to join the ffsa?

There aren't any.

Not quite true. The way some carry on, Parafield Gardens or Lizzie Downs could win the local Fed Cup, qualify for FFA cup, win that and get into the ACL!

All cabernet aside, if anything the FFSA should join the SAASL at least as far as admin goes. If you need to re-badge the name of the new "joint" governing body to appease the masses, so be it.

+1

[jackdogs]

The only reason for any of this chat is so the FFSA can get more teams into the FFA cup and a no win at all for SAASL

[bench-warmer]

Just need to treat it as a merger rather than an acquisition, with a balanced board and management, and pre-set guidelines on structure, finances, etc.

[Black_Panther]

Just need to treat it as a merger rather than an acquisition, with a balanced board and management, and pre-set guidelines on structure, finances, etc.

Do you think it should be proportionate to membership size?

If so the FFSA clubs would never agree to that.

[dj_no.1]

I couldnt care if there were no clubs in the ffa cup. Ill be hoping for no merger. I can only see rego fees skyrocketing.

[redfred]

would be good to see saasl teams with the opportunity to play in the federation cup

[swannsong]

What benefits are there for the saasl to join the ffsa?

There aren't any.

Not quite true. The way some carry on, Parafield Gardens or Lizzie Downs could win the local Fed Cup, qualify for FFA cup, win that and get into the ACL!

All cabernet aside, if anything the FFSA should join the SAASL at least as far as admin goes. If you need to re-badge the name of the new "joint" governing body to appease the masses, so be it.

Don't think anyone has suggested anything about 'football prowess' in this discussion, it's mostly been about following, support and number of players registered with the FFA.
Also the fact that due to the impasse, SAASL teams and affiliated junior sides cannot compete in any FFA competitions or play against FFSA teams without fear of reprimand from the FFSA.
An example would be...there used to be a fairly regular and strong National Amateur Championship that South Australia had often been successful in...currently an SAASL State select side cannot compete in these kinds of Championships or, as hilighted in the article, could not even play a celebratory exhibition game against Adelaide United.

[bench-warmer]

Just need to treat it as a merger rather than an acquisition, with a balanced board and management, and pre-set guidelines on structure, finances, etc.

Do you think it should be proportionate to membership size?

If so the FFSA clubs would never agree to that.

For sure. Everyone wants to protect their turf.

Should have said a consolidation, rather than merger. Set up a truly independent entity with the SAASL and FFSA as operational divisions. Neither would exist as it does. This would solve the inherent distrust between the organisations, by not having one subordinate to the other.

Each party brings something to the table. Be it number of clubs, number of players (seniors, juniors, women) and how much they pay to play, volunteers, pitches, cash, assets, management structure, supporter numbers, level of competition, public exposure, etc.

You really need a third party to quantify all that, put in a proposed consolidation structure and put it to the two leagues. If they agree, done. If not, get on with life.

The problem is neither the SAASL or FFSA is in trouble, so a hostile takeover would be resisted.

The stick isn't working. Start using the carrot.

[You Too]

Not this chestnut again. The SAASL needs the FFSA like the Titanic needed the iceberg.

Until they can get their act together and show real leadership with regards to running Football in this State for the good of all and not just their own elitist self interests there is naff all in it for SAASL folk.

The current mob running the FFSA see the SAASL as a cash cow and because they cant get their grubby mits on the cash they throw their toys out the pram and hold the whole SA Footballing community back with their childish inter league ban. Reasonable people can not and should not bow to their pathetic tactics. If the current mob took over they would decimate in a year or two what the SAASL has taken fifty years to set up.

[swannsong]

Not this chestnut again. The SAASL needs the FFSA like the Titanic needed the iceberg.

Until they can get their act together and show real leadership with regards to running Football in this State for the good of all and not just their own elitist self interests there is naff all in it for SAASL folk.

The current mob running the FFSA see the SAASL as a cash cow and because they cant get their grubby mits on the cash they throw their toys out the pram and hold the whole SA Footballing community back with their childish inter league ban. Reasonable people can not and should not bow to their pathetic tactics. If the current mob took over they would decimate in a year or two what the SAASL has taken fifty years to set up.

May not need the FFSA, but would be great to be aligned with FFA > FIFA ( despite their failings and alleged corruption).

[gone]

Not this chestnut again. The SAASL needs the FFSA like the Titanic needed the iceberg.

Until they can get their act together and show real leadership with regards to running Football in this State for the good of all and not just their own elitist self interests there is naff all in it for SAASL folk.

The current mob running the FFSA see the SAASL as a cash cow and because they cant get their grubby mits on the cash they throw their toys out the pram and hold the whole SA Footballing community back with their childish inter league ban. Reasonable people can not and should not bow to their pathetic tactics. If the current mob took over they would decimate in a year or two what the SAASL has taken fifty years to set up.

May not need the FFSA, but would be great to be aligned with FFA > FIFA ( despite their failings and alleged corruption).

Hence why SAASL are talking with FFA, rather than FFSA.

[You Too]

Swanny I agree with you. I would love nothing more than to see Football in this State moving forward as one ultimately under the FIFA umbrella. However the current crowd running the FFSA are not interested in Football they are only interested in themselves. Unfortunately until the people appointing / voting them in actually wake up and elect some real leaders who want to put Football first the status quo will remain.

Cant see the FFA overriding the FFSA that would really show how dysfunctional they are.

[bloodypassit]

Swanny I agree with you. I would love nothing more than to see Football in this State moving forward as one ultimately under the FIFA umbrella. However the current crowd running the FFSA are not interested in Football they are only interested in themselves. Unfortunately until the people appointing / voting them in actually wake up and elect some real leaders who want to put Football first the status quo will remain.

Cant see the FFA overriding the FFSA that would really show how dysfunctional they are.

How is the FFSA dysfunctional .... It was the FFA who informed FFSA that all clubs and associations are to work under the same insurance program .

If the FFSA were not interested in the development of football in this state why have we got new grounds ( Burton/Adelaide Shores/Parks Community Centre)

Why does FFSA still invest money into coaching development/player pathways etc

Just think when a game is completed the FFSA website is updated within the hour with scores and ladders... What is the average time with the SAASL updating their website.

How frustrating is it for SAASL clubs to know when a player is suspended with accumulated yellow cards after his 5th yellow ... it varies from 1 week to 3 weeks
as the FFSA will notify the club within that week .

How do you assume that affiliation fees will sky rocket ... I dont see the Collegiate League having massive affiliation fees..while your at it have a look at their website....

Im sure every association has its faults but lets look at the big picture .. There are some massive positives if both parties can work together ....

No one is asking for either bank accounts...

[Stitch This]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

This!

Absolutely NFI.

Small town Adelaide, small town thinking.

[bloodypassit]

This will only happen if FFSA waive the large affiliation fee. Never in a million years will they do that...

I don't see the collegiate league paying massive affiliation fees to the FFSA

Do the collegiate teams make up part of the 29 clubs listed?

No...no collegiate teams entered the Federation Cup due to timing....prelim round was early Feb .. Some clubs had just started preseason

[You Too]

Swanny I agree with you. I would love nothing more than to see Football in this State moving forward as one ultimately under the FIFA umbrella. However the current crowd running the FFSA are not interested in Football they are only interested in themselves. Unfortunately until the people appointing / voting them in actually wake up and elect some real leaders who want to put Football first the status quo will remain.

Cant see the FFA overriding the FFSA that would really show how dysfunctional they are.

How is the FFSA dysfunctional .... It was the FFA who informed FFSA that all clubs and associations are to work under the same insurance program .

If the FFSA were not interested in the development of football in this state why have we got new grounds ( Burton/Adelaide Shores/Parks Community Centre)

Why does FFSA still invest money into coaching development/player pathways etc

Just think when a game is completed the FFSA website is updated within the hour with scores and ladders... What is the average time with the SAASL updating their website.

How frustrating is it for SAASL clubs to know when a player is suspended with accumulated yellow cards after his 5th yellow ... it varies from 1 week to 3 weeks
as the FFSA will notify the club within that week .

How do you assume that affiliation fees will sky rocket ... I dont see the Collegiate League having massive affiliation fees..while your at it have a look at their website....

Im sure every association has its faults but lets look at the big picture .. There are some massive positives if both parties can work together ....

No one is asking for either bank accounts...

Passit the FFSA can't get their act together and pull the whole footballing community in SA together and move forward as one. I doubt there would be very many people associated with the game in this state who would not want that to happen. How hard could it possibly be to develop a plan, bring everyone together, compromise a little and move forward, especially when the majority want that exact outcome.

If you can't acheive what the majority want then surely per se you are totally dysfunctional.