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Indirect free kick or do we have a rogue referee running around?

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as long as he doesn't lose control of it and pick it up again (i.e it hits a divot and rolls away) or something like that - he's deemed to have control of the ball at all times. Rogue Referee...

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Ridiculous referee, he was an absolute clown all game. Left both sides scratching their heads.

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From the Laws of the Game

"116
Offences committed by goalkeepers
A goalkeeper is not permitted to keep control of the ball in his hands for more
than six seconds. A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball:
• while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body)
• while holding the ball in his outstretched open hand
• while in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air"

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English wrote:Indirect free kick or do we have a rogue referee running around?
If he does it for more than six seconds indirect free kick,
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Christ! Whats this, clutching at straws posting this, free kick for bouncing the ball, some people need to learn the rules!!!!

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Both goalkeepers had bounced it within seconds of picking it up.

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Oh sorry, i read it wrong, you had a freekick given against you for it, that crap!!!

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Can I also take the opportunity to clear something else up too - I was witness to a comment this weekend made by a keeper in a game along the lines of "ref, youve already given the free kick, you cant change your mind"

I quote Law 5 - the referee:
"The referee may only change a decision on realising that it is incorrect or, at his
discretion, on the advice of an assistant referee or the fourth official, provided
that he has not restarted play or terminated the match
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whilst this doesnt happen often he is well within his rights to do so...

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wasn't this "so last week"??

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sephiroth wrote:wasn't this "so last week"??
isn't that part of the problem though? if it is 'so last week' why do we see it every week...?

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another spanking for the kittens then I guess?
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this wasn't the iggies ref again was it? He did that 2 weeks ago didn't he.

That ref was wrong then and this one is now.
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Hi all para hills lions keeper here , we'll very interesting experiment by the reff today.
He called against the grove keeper for bouncing the ball , I was thinking maby he kicked it up to him self couldn't quite see, found out after half time that apparently were now not aloud to bounce the ball.
Then in second half I done the same thing resulting in the same free kick. Very strange...I spoke to the reff after the game he said to me that he had had a conversation with a div 1 reff the day before and that was the way that he interpreted the ruling that if a keeper bounces the ball he is no longer in control of the ball therefor a hand ball.... Hmmm I attack the Wikipedia rules

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God is an Englishman wrote:this wasn't the iggies ref again was it? He did that 2 weeks ago didn't he.

That ref was wrong then and this one is now.
Mate said happened to his team two weeks ago. Ref had a knee brace, might be called Steve?

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English wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:this wasn't the iggies ref again was it? He did that 2 weeks ago didn't he.

That ref was wrong then and this one is now.
Mate said happened to his team two weeks ago. Ref had a knee brace, might be called Steve?

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This happened in the Savoy v Angle Vale game 6 weeks ago. Sounds like the same ref yet I then watched EPL and saw Petr Cech do it and no free kick given. Not all refs pick it up but apparently its been a rule for 5 or so years. Goal keeper bouncing the ball is illegal.

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little skinny old fella I think the knee brace too . same reff I think

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We were given a free kick at Angle Vale for the Savoy keeper bouncing the ball back in Round 3... Both teams were so confused. Haha

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If its a rule, is it listed in the fifa/epl laws?

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This is ridiculous, can someone please put the incident in writing to the SAASL so the ref can be "re-educated"?

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The law CLEARLY states that bouncing the ball is deemed as still having the ball under the keepers control. It's their in black and white in the laws of the game.
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God is an Englishman wrote:The law CLEARLY states that bouncing the ball is deemed as still having the ball under the keepers control. It's their in black and white in the laws of the game.
No one is disputing that. Both goalkeepers were still well within their six seconds allowance. Infact he didnt even see the second one, he was alerted to it by the Grove players.

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English wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The law CLEARLY states that bouncing the ball is deemed as still having the ball under the keepers control. It's their in black and white in the laws of the game.
No one is disputing that. Both goalkeepers were still well within their six seconds allowance. Infact he didnt even see the second one, he was alerted to it by the Grove players.
Clearly the referee involved is.
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Try spell check Otto - you're giving goalkeepers a bad name.

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What's the rule when the keeper doesn't bounce when dropped by the ball?

Maybe ORB can answer.
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lefty wrote:What's the rule when the keeper doesn't bounce when dropped by the ball?

Maybe ORB can answer.

Sorry lefty, if i understood the question I would try to answer it. I have a feeling a joke has just flown over my head
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God is an Englishman wrote:
lefty wrote:What's the rule when the keeper doesn't bounce when dropped by the ball?

Maybe ORB can answer.

Sorry lefty, if i understood the question I would try to answer it. I have a feeling a joke has just flown over my head
Poor attempt & a cheap shot at my friend ORB I know but I was suggesting that if the ball hit the goakeeper & knocked him over what would happen if he didnt bounce straight back up?
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lefty wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
lefty wrote:What's the rule when the keeper doesn't bounce when dropped by the ball?

Maybe ORB can answer.

Sorry lefty, if i understood the question I would try to answer it. I have a feeling a joke has just flown over my head
Poor attempt & a cheap shot at my friend ORB I know but I was suggesting that if the ball hit the goakeeper & knocked him over what would happen if he didnt bounce straight back up?

I did say I thought a joke had flown over my head :D
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2012-13 Laws of the Game
Interpretation of the Laws of the game - Guidelines for Referees
Page 116

Law 12 Fouls and Misconduct

Offences committed by a goalkeeper

Agoalkeeper is not permitted to keep control of the ball in his hands for more than six seconds. A goalkeepers is considered to be in control of the ball:
+ while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body)
+ While holding the ball with his outstreached open hand
+ While in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air.


THereferee as long it is a controlled bounce it is OK. But for example the ball gets away from the goalkeeper and he has to go after it to grab it or it gets stuck in the mud and he picks it up, it is considered as handling the ball twice and in this case a Indirect Free Kick is awarded to the opposing team.

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